full Suspesion worth over hardtail?
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Is it really worth lots extra over hardtail? or is those bikes is compleply different and its worth having a hardtail and FS bikes?
I am debating if i should go FS bikes.
Do you guys knows if there any hire shop that hires out FS downhill type bike in milton keynes area, I wanna test it out on my local spot.
I am debating if i should go FS bikes.
Do you guys knows if there any hire shop that hires out FS downhill type bike in milton keynes area, I wanna test it out on my local spot.
Depends what you ride. Personally I wouldn't do without my FS for most of the welsh trail centres etc (it's a real skill enhancer), but on my home turf I really would like a decent XC orientated HT.
Honestly, their isn't a one bike to do everything, IMO you need both. A 5-6" travel FS and a 3-4" travel HT would be perfect in my world.
Honestly, their isn't a one bike to do everything, IMO you need both. A 5-6" travel FS and a 3-4" travel HT would be perfect in my world.
I have a ransom that has different suspension settings. 165mm, 100mm, and full lockout, But i only use the different settings on killer climbs. Otherwise i leave it on full travel and it seems to do everything quite good. On the other hand my forks are out of action so i took my partners giant HT out and did a 14mile local ride on the HT and it knocked the 5h1t out of me over all the bumps that you dont normaly feel on the FS but it is just what i have got used to. I wish i could get used to riding HT again but i doubt that will happen and i find im quicker on the FS than the HT. So it looks like ill be keeping the good old ransom as a do it all bike and give my ass the comfort it needs
Which is a shame because when i rode a HT i swore i would never get a FS. How wrong i was.
Which is a shame because when i rode a HT i swore i would never get a FS. How wrong i was.vrooom said:
Is it really worth lots extra over hardtail? or is those bikes is compleply different and its worth having a hardtail and FS bikes?
I am debating if i should go FS bikes.
Do you guys knows if there any hire shop that hires out FS downhill type bike in milton keynes area, I wanna test it out on my local spot.
I ride all of the stuff around milton keynes on hardtail. I find it much more reliable and there to be no need for FS around here. However i would jump at the chance to try out a full on downhill bike at woburn I am debating if i should go FS bikes.
Do you guys knows if there any hire shop that hires out FS downhill type bike in milton keynes area, I wanna test it out on my local spot.
ps. im from mk village
CooperS said:
why dont you go to your local bike shop and get a demo bike for the week? Thats what i've just done with a Orange 5?
Thinking about it , go into corleys and have a look. They are real nice blokes and ive heard they have specialized demo bikes. But im not completely sure as i know they are mainly xc and road bike specialists. worth a try though im sure.
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It's an interesting debate, but it's very personal to the individual. I have both but at the moment but I am finding my hardtails so much more fun to ride than my full-suss.
They are very different rides I haven't ridden my FS for a couple months now, but will this weekend to remind myself what it's like. I am tempted to sell the frame and get Dialled-Bikes Alpine
We will have to see.
Easiest way is to try one as has been mentioned and and see what you think, I don't think we can answer for you.
They are very different rides I haven't ridden my FS for a couple months now, but will this weekend to remind myself what it's like. I am tempted to sell the frame and get Dialled-Bikes Alpine
We will have to see.Easiest way is to try one as has been mentioned and and see what you think, I don't think we can answer for you.
I'm also lucky enough to have both 80mm HT and 6" FS. Find that the HT is great for training and anything up to about 60km, but for 100km races and such, FS every time. I couldn't take much more than about 3 hours of bouncing on rocky firetrails and gnarly singletrack on a HT without wanting to just put the bike down and walk.
Good compromise might be 3-4" FS, Giant Trance, that sort of thing, but do try them on a trail you know well to make a good comparison - any bike shop worth its reputation will lend demo bikes out.
Good compromise might be 3-4" FS, Giant Trance, that sort of thing, but do try them on a trail you know well to make a good comparison - any bike shop worth its reputation will lend demo bikes out.
Is FS worth lots more than HT?
For me, yes. That's not to say a HT is not up to the job, it is. For long distances, or rocky terrain FS makes the ride more enjoyable: you don't end up feeling like you've been beaten up, and end up choosing a few different lines on the trail.
I've got both, and use the HT throughout the winter and on muddy days. I use the FS (90mm travel) at all other times, for all terrain.
I can't help thinking a lot of people end up over biked for the majority of the riding they do - but, why not if it adds to their biking experience: its a personal thing.
Would I get a 5"-6" bike: absolutely - and if all my riding was in the lake district or scotland, I'd buy one in a heartbeat - but realistically I probably only do 20 rides a year in that sort of terrain - the rest of the time its on the Surrey Hills. HT or short travel FS works for me.
For me, yes. That's not to say a HT is not up to the job, it is. For long distances, or rocky terrain FS makes the ride more enjoyable: you don't end up feeling like you've been beaten up, and end up choosing a few different lines on the trail.
I've got both, and use the HT throughout the winter and on muddy days. I use the FS (90mm travel) at all other times, for all terrain.
I can't help thinking a lot of people end up over biked for the majority of the riding they do - but, why not if it adds to their biking experience: its a personal thing.
Would I get a 5"-6" bike: absolutely - and if all my riding was in the lake district or scotland, I'd buy one in a heartbeat - but realistically I probably only do 20 rides a year in that sort of terrain - the rest of the time its on the Surrey Hills. HT or short travel FS works for me.
Edited by MTY4000 on Monday 11th February 22:50
I cant afford a decent fully susspention bike. Or atleast, cant justify the cost.
I ride a £600 rockhopper hardtail, cross country, mild down hill.
- Cannock chase FTD, Llandegla black run, Northface trail. All year round.
The way i look at it is, i really like my bike, and a get a hell of a kick out of riding it, on my own, or with freinds. (who all have hardtails too anyway).
However a few months ago i did hire a £2k trek for a day round cannock.
- A freind had come with and was going to hire a hardtail, but there where non left, and he didnt fit the full sussers, so i lent him mine and we split the hirecost.
Anyway, cut a long story short. It was very interesting, and im really glad i did it.
- In winter cannock gets fairly rutted, espically into bends, and its quite hard work on a hardtail, just staying on the pedels, and geting stoping distances right when the back ends bouncing all over the show.
- On the trek jobby thing you just rode it, and it was like it was smooth. No viloent shaking though the pedals, far more incontrol, just like it was smooth as i say.
- Also the bike had tubeless tyres, that where very soft. And 6" roters and juicy7's rather than 4" juicy3's And that made a big diffrence too. And the bike didnt feel at all heavy eather.
Im still going to stick to my rockhopper. But it really opened my eyes to what people are going on about.
- I was deffonatly quick round on the trek too even second time round (frst time was just geting used the bike) and if you did have problems with knees etc, it must be better for them on the rough downhill secitons.
But yeah, well recomend hiring a few. £30 for three hours i paid. And there was a full choice of about 15 brands/models. Hardtails £15 for three hours. And one hour was half the price for both i think.
- Anyway, the prices are online on chasetrails/swinertons website.
Daniel
I ride a £600 rockhopper hardtail, cross country, mild down hill.
- Cannock chase FTD, Llandegla black run, Northface trail. All year round.
The way i look at it is, i really like my bike, and a get a hell of a kick out of riding it, on my own, or with freinds. (who all have hardtails too anyway).
However a few months ago i did hire a £2k trek for a day round cannock.
- A freind had come with and was going to hire a hardtail, but there where non left, and he didnt fit the full sussers, so i lent him mine and we split the hirecost.
Anyway, cut a long story short. It was very interesting, and im really glad i did it.
- In winter cannock gets fairly rutted, espically into bends, and its quite hard work on a hardtail, just staying on the pedels, and geting stoping distances right when the back ends bouncing all over the show.
- On the trek jobby thing you just rode it, and it was like it was smooth. No viloent shaking though the pedals, far more incontrol, just like it was smooth as i say.
- Also the bike had tubeless tyres, that where very soft. And 6" roters and juicy7's rather than 4" juicy3's And that made a big diffrence too. And the bike didnt feel at all heavy eather.
Im still going to stick to my rockhopper. But it really opened my eyes to what people are going on about.
- I was deffonatly quick round on the trek too even second time round (frst time was just geting used the bike) and if you did have problems with knees etc, it must be better for them on the rough downhill secitons.
But yeah, well recomend hiring a few. £30 for three hours i paid. And there was a full choice of about 15 brands/models. Hardtails £15 for three hours. And one hour was half the price for both i think.
- Anyway, the prices are online on chasetrails/swinertons website.
Daniel
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