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was going to say pewter, but then they are chris king hubs, so definatly mango, will add a colour to your bike.
most of my bikes are all black, hence the first choice of pewter, but i rekon if i was going down the coloured hub route, red or green, or in fact mango would be the way to go.
awsome kit.
most of my bikes are all black, hence the first choice of pewter, but i rekon if i was going down the coloured hub route, red or green, or in fact mango would be the way to go.
awsome kit.
_daveR said:
Mango:
My bike is mainly black:
Any comments?
that will look sweet. nice hubs.My bike is mainly black:
Any comments?
the hope bulbs on my asx are purple. not sure if i'd have put purple on but i definatly think it would be a bit boring if all black. would have chosen gold myself,
thinking about it i might be a total tart an try and swap mine for some gold ones actually :-)
what tires are you running there?
Edited by Scho on Thursday 3rd January 10:24
936ADL said:
I run Pro II's on two of my bikes and they have been faultless. I'd choose Hope stuff over CK all day long.
Personally the Hope knockers really p"£s me off. I just ignore them and enjoy products engineered and built in the UK.
Im no knocker (although Im sure would call me a tit without thinking twice) of Hope stuff. I run Mono M4's and like them so much Im going to treat them to a full rebuild at Hope rather than buy anything new. Personally the Hope knockers really p"£s me off. I just ignore them and enjoy products engineered and built in the UK.
The ProII front that I have has been faultless for the 18 months Ive had it. There is a slight bit of play appearing now though but I cannot grumble at that.
Also the Bulb rear that I have has served me well. Its so old that it still uses a 5 bolt rotor!
BUT, would I fit a ProII rear hub? Nope. Not even if it was free.
Why?
They have f'ck all ratchets inside them, after a few months of use the amount of play before they engage is just unacceptable IMO. Ive seen several that allow a good 30-40 degrees of crank movement before they engage! Plus the freehubs are made of cheese and cassettes eat into them meaning you cannot get the bugger off.
Ok they do weight the same as a CK hub but thats just because they skimped on the internals.
Why wouldn't you go for a CK hub?
Fair enough Dave.
But, that's not been my experience of Pro IIs at all. I've run a SS Pro II hub now for over 18 months, and the pick up is as tight as the day i got it.
As for why i wouldn't run a CK hub, there's just something about the brand that i din't like. Each to their own i guess.
Cheers,
Andy
But, that's not been my experience of Pro IIs at all. I've run a SS Pro II hub now for over 18 months, and the pick up is as tight as the day i got it.
As for why i wouldn't run a CK hub, there's just something about the brand that i din't like. Each to their own i guess.
Cheers,
Andy
I have CK Hubs and the front one is awesome the rear one is not as awesome. The issues is and if you do a internet search there are others the rear becomes loose (cones is the best description) and you have to keep tightening it up, if you over tighten it then the wheel drag's its a real PITA.
I also have Shimano XT hubs and Hope hubs, given the choice again thought the CK's are a marvel of engineering and beautiful but they are a little higher maintenance than I would like.
For me the dury is still out and I may yet replace the rear wheel with a different hub to avoid the fact it comes loose a little to often. I am in the giving them another chance phase before I replace the rear hub.
Now CK headsets they are brilliant and having chewed a few Hope ones i'd thorough recommend the CK headsets they are excellent if not a little pricey.
I also have Shimano XT hubs and Hope hubs, given the choice again thought the CK's are a marvel of engineering and beautiful but they are a little higher maintenance than I would like.
For me the dury is still out and I may yet replace the rear wheel with a different hub to avoid the fact it comes loose a little to often. I am in the giving them another chance phase before I replace the rear hub.
Now CK headsets they are brilliant and having chewed a few Hope ones i'd thorough recommend the CK headsets they are excellent if not a little pricey.
936ADL said:
Fair enough Dave.
But, that's not been my experience of Pro IIs at all. I've run a SS Pro II hub now for over 18 months, and the pick up is as tight as the day i got it.
As for why i wouldn't run a CK hub, there's just something about the brand that i din't like. Each to their own i guess.
The SS/Trials Pro II is an entirely different beast to a normal Pro II. For starters it has 4 pawl, 48 engagement steel freehub Vs a 24 engagement alloy freehub.But, that's not been my experience of Pro IIs at all. I've run a SS Pro II hub now for over 18 months, and the pick up is as tight as the day i got it.
As for why i wouldn't run a CK hub, there's just something about the brand that i din't like. Each to their own i guess.
I think it was Keith Bontrager who suggested you can pick 2 of the following; cheap, light, strong. Hope obviously picked the cheap and light option.
The Bulb was a different story with 48 engagements and a Ti freehub body. The Pro II is a poor replacement.
The headsets are good, but not designed for long travel forks due to a design flaw (150-180mm single crown forks just were not around when the NoThreadSet came out) and the lack of compression ring means the headset has a healthy appetite for the steerertube. Lots of problems of serious pitting around the contact points. Not really ideal in a high load area.
Edited by Hob Nob on Friday 4th January 10:48
24 engagements is excellent? I rode a bike with a Pro II once after coming off mine running Hadley (72pt) and it was very funny. I found it hard to ride due to the large amount of input needed before it engaged.
When it needed a replacement cassette it needed a new freehub because the body is too soft and had been ruined. Hope recommend only using a cassette with an alloy carrier to try to stop this but it doesnt really work.
The Hope is good value for money but it is very outclassed by King, Hadley, Industry 9, Tune, Burgtec etc etc but it is a fraction of the cost of most.
When it needed a replacement cassette it needed a new freehub because the body is too soft and had been ruined. Hope recommend only using a cassette with an alloy carrier to try to stop this but it doesnt really work.
The Hope is good value for money but it is very outclassed by King, Hadley, Industry 9, Tune, Burgtec etc etc but it is a fraction of the cost of most.
936ADL said:
According to the Hope website both the SS/Trials and normal Pro II hubs have 4 pawl 24 engagement set ups.
I've got both types, and the engagement of both is excellent.
How old are the hubs and have you ever tried to get a cassette off one?I've got both types, and the engagement of both is excellent.
Hob Nob said:
24 engagements is excellent? I rode a bike with a Pro II once after coming off mine running Hadley (72pt) and it was very funny. I found it hard to ride due to the large amount of input needed before it engaged.
When it needed a replacement cassette it needed a new freehub because the body is too soft and had been ruined. Hope recommend only using a cassette with an alloy carrier to try to stop this but it doesnt really work.
The Hope is good value for money but it is very outclassed by King, Hadley, Industry 9, Tune, Burgtec etc etc but it is a fraction of the cost of most.
Exactly the findings of myself and the guys I ride with. When it needed a replacement cassette it needed a new freehub because the body is too soft and had been ruined. Hope recommend only using a cassette with an alloy carrier to try to stop this but it doesnt really work.
The Hope is good value for money but it is very outclassed by King, Hadley, Industry 9, Tune, Burgtec etc etc but it is a fraction of the cost of most.
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