Shimano Component Confusion
Discussion
This is shamelessly cut and pasted from Wikipedia:
Road bicycle groupsets
For 2006, road bicycle groupsets include:
* Dura-Ace (10 speed)
* Ultegra (10 speed)
* 105 (10 speed)
* Tiagra (9 speed with redesigned "10 speed" hood shape for 2007)
* Sora (8 speed)
* 2200 (8 speed)
Mountain bike groupsets
Current mountain bike groupsets include:
* XTR (9 speed) - Top of the range for cross-country mountain bikes
* Deore XT (9 speed)
* Deore LX (9 speed)
* Deore (9 speed)
* Saint (9 speed) - Top of the range for downhill and freeride bikes, and many components are based on the XT groupset
* Hone (9 speed) - Cheaper downhill/freeride specific groupset, similar to the LX groupset
* Alivio (8 speed)
* Acera (8 speed)
* Altus (8 speed)
* Tourney (7 speed) - Includes several different levels of quality, and can be found on department-store bicycles
Road bicycle groupsets
For 2006, road bicycle groupsets include:
* Dura-Ace (10 speed)
* Ultegra (10 speed)
* 105 (10 speed)
* Tiagra (9 speed with redesigned "10 speed" hood shape for 2007)
* Sora (8 speed)
* 2200 (8 speed)
Mountain bike groupsets
Current mountain bike groupsets include:
* XTR (9 speed) - Top of the range for cross-country mountain bikes
* Deore XT (9 speed)
* Deore LX (9 speed)
* Deore (9 speed)
* Saint (9 speed) - Top of the range for downhill and freeride bikes, and many components are based on the XT groupset
* Hone (9 speed) - Cheaper downhill/freeride specific groupset, similar to the LX groupset
* Alivio (8 speed)
* Acera (8 speed)
* Altus (8 speed)
* Tourney (7 speed) - Includes several different levels of quality, and can be found on department-store bicycles
Pigfarmer3 said:
Aagghh.
The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..
(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Really? Funny that, have you had inboard mechs yet? The only reason why we haven't effectively used carbon in certain conponents is impact strength: We could run carbon one everything (I try and have done so for years) however seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime, I'd hazard thats why we haven't had a carbon XTR mech until now.The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..
(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Never mind the fact that we have rapidrise, the new shadow mechs, etc - all things not found on road bikes.
If anything, the roadie scene is more static in technology - not embracing change so well as the MTB market...
You may jest at us only just 'discovering' carbon - but remember that I'm tooling about on a 11 year old carbon full suspension frame (as is Pete) - which was in full production back then.
How many road frame builders, barring Trek, offered carbon frames back then? Who ripped who off?
Yes, but roadies dont generally smash their rear mechs off rocks, do they?
The new stuff is the 'shadow' mechs, they dont stick out further than the drop out, really nice.
Theres been composites in use on mountainbikes aswell for years, however its less popular as it needs to be resistant to impact aswell as strong and light.
The new stuff is the 'shadow' mechs, they dont stick out further than the drop out, really nice.
Theres been composites in use on mountainbikes aswell for years, however its less popular as it needs to be resistant to impact aswell as strong and light.
Campagnola Record
Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component
fantastic bit of kit
Shimtournolo pffft...
Sturmey Archer's where its at
When i was a lad, and XT rapid fire shifters first came out, we always changed them for upside down Suntour XC ones, as the shimano stuff forever broke, is it any better now. I remember the price as well when it came out... good job Claude Crimes used to sponsor us
Sturmey Archer's where its at
When i was a lad, and XT rapid fire shifters first came out, we always changed them for upside down Suntour XC ones, as the shimano stuff forever broke, is it any better now. I remember the price as well when it came out... good job Claude Crimes used to sponsor us
Edited by SkinnyBoy on Saturday 11th August 07:50
neil_bolton said:
Pigfarmer3 said:
Aagghh.
The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..
(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Really? Funny that, have you had inboard mechs yet? The only reason why we haven't effectively used carbon in certain conponents is impact strength: We could run carbon one everything (I try and have done so for years) however seeing as we frequently rip rear mechs off for a pasttime, I'd hazard thats why we haven't had a carbon XTR mech until now.The shameless copy and paste of ideas from the roady scene. We've had carbon fibre all over our components for years. Check out the Campag Record stuff..
(It's lees hubba hubba than, whops I've just cum. Haha)
Never mind the fact that we have rapidrise, the new shadow mechs, etc - all things not found on road bikes.
If anything, the roadie scene is more static in technology - not embracing change so well as the MTB market...
You may jest at us only just 'discovering' carbon - but remember that I'm tooling about on a 11 year old carbon full suspension frame (as is Pete) - which was in full production back then.
How many road frame builders, barring Trek, offered carbon frames back then? Who ripped who off?
I agree that some applications are less suitable for carbon on an mtb. I think the UCI has restricted a lot of roadbike development and design innovation.
Not interested in a roadie vs mtb debate myself though - I'm into both (though I do prefer Campag for the road!)
DBSV8 said:
Campagnola Record
Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component
fantastic bit of kit
That is porn. Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component
fantastic bit of kit
Saddle bum said:
DBSV8 said:
Campagnola Record
Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component
fantastic bit of kit
That is porn. Campagnolo Record
The most technological groupset for racing bicycles. The Campagnolo Record groupset is incomparable and a glance will tell you why. But the Campagnolo Record groupset does not just have outstanding esthetic appeal. It contains an unprecedented concentration of technology.
The use of the technology of composite materials enables components with reduced weight and greater mechanical resistance to be obtained.
Not to mention the flexible design and solutions reached that would be impossible with aluminum.
The materials have been chosen and specially made for each single component
fantastic bit of kit
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