Advice please - changing pedals

Advice please - changing pedals

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MTY4000

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327 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Hi,

I have two sets of pedals for my mtb, flats (Easton flatboys) and clippless (candy sls). I like to ride flats when doing all-mountain style rides (e.g. Lake District) and clippless for cross-country (e.g. Surrey Hills).

I have been asking my bike shop to change the pedals for me... but I really think I should be able to do this myself. I've got myself an appropriate spanner and some greese.... but, do I need a torque wrentch for this kind of work. Do other PHers tackle this at home without torque wrenches - if so any tips?

Thanks,
Ian

westy04

275 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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There easy to change. I've never torqued them up as its pretty pointless.
Don'f forget they can never come on done as the thread on each pedal goes in the same direction as you cycle. (If that makes sense).
Just don't over tighten.

MTY4000

Original Poster:

327 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Perfect, thanks.

Ian

Greendubber

13,804 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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One more thing I'd ass to this is, is that if you have the cash buy a proper pedal spanner or at least a high quality 15mm spanner. Being as you'll be using it a lot make sure you buy quality so it doesn't turn to cheese after a while.

Also, make sure the threads are nice and clean and check in the crank arm to make sure there's no crud in there. Apply a light smear of grease too when putting them in. Take car putting them in to avoid crossing the threads as the axles on the pedals are a lot tougher than the crank arms, cross threading will mean ranted crank arms after a while!.

T

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Greendubber said:
One more thing I'd add to this is, is that if you have the cash buy a proper pedal spanner or at least a high quality 15mm spanner. Being as you'll be using it a lot make sure you buy quality so it doesn't turn to cheese after a while.
Agree 100%. The longer the better too. A proper pedal spanner will give you loads of leverage meaning that you will be putting less pressure on the spanner when it does finally give.

Doing this with too short a spanner could cause a nasty knuckle grazing accident when the pedal first breaks it's thread. Not nice!!


MTY4000

Original Poster:

327 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Good advice thanks. I've bought a pedal spanner for the job, not cheap but I will get the use out of it.

Greendubber

13,804 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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MTY4000 said:
Good advice thanks. I've bought a pedal spanner for the job, not cheap but I will get the use out of it.
It is well worth it, even if you do feel like you're buying shares in the shop thats sold it to you wink

Just make sure you keep an eye on it, took me 4 months to track mine down in a mates tool box after I lent it to him before a ride once wink

MTY4000

Original Poster:

327 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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I'm just glad I don't need to buy a torque wrench! 'How expensive could they be' I thought, as I walked into Halfords... 10 mins later I left in stunned silence.

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Maybe not for bikes, but for car mechanics a good torque wrench is essential, and one tool worth spending good money on.

They are nearly always socket wrenches anyway, and not suited to apprications that can only be done with an open ended spanner. Attachements for the wrench are available (got some to prove it!), and you could always torque using the allen head on the rear of the pedal arm too (if available)

gbbird

5,193 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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MTY4000 said:
I'm just glad I don't need to buy a torque wrench! 'How expensive could they be' I thought, as I walked into Halfords... 10 mins later I left in stunned silence.
So how much are they then? I have been thinking of getting one.

Xenocide

4,286 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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gbbird said:
MTY4000 said:
I'm just glad I don't need to buy a torque wrench! 'How expensive could they be' I thought, as I walked into Halfords... 10 mins later I left in stunned silence.
So how much are they then? I have been thinking of getting one.
Fleabay!!!!

Nick_F

10,295 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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mat205125 said:
Maybe not for bikes, but for car mechanics a good torque wrench is essential, and one tool worth spending good money on.

They are nearly always socket wrenches anyway, and not suited to apprications that can only be done with an open ended spanner. Attachements for the wrench are available (got some to prove it!), and you could always torque using the allen head on the rear of the pedal arm too (if available)
The pedals on my bike - Shimano clipless road jobbies - have a hex recess set into the end of the thread so they can be dealt with using an allen key or suitable bit fitted to a ratchet. A lot less hit-and-miss than a narrow c-spanner.

Rico

7,916 posts

262 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Nick_F said:
The pedals on my bike - Shimano clipless road jobbies - have a hex recess set into the end of the thread so they can be dealt with using an allen key or suitable bit fitted to a ratchet. A lot less hit-and-miss than a narrow c-spanner.
Ditto with my XC pedals. I spent ages trying to work out where the spanner went on them the first time sillyrofl

Buzz word

2,028 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Its also well worth checking the R and L stampings in the end of the axle before fitting. Its a mistake you only make once.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th July 2007
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Buzz word said:
Its also well worth checking the R and L stampings in the end of the axle before fitting. Its a mistake you only make once.
Right pedal is right hand thread, left pedal is left hand thread.

MTY4000

Original Poster:

327 posts

250 months

Friday 20th July 2007
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Thanks for the advice all.

re: Costs of torque wrench.

I think I was shown an inappropriate product in Halfords (I went there looking for a budget item), at first the assistant did not know what a torque wrench was (worrying as he was from the bike section!), but with the help of other assistants I was directed to a suitcase sized socket set & torque wrench (in the car section). I think it was about £170 or so? I was assured this was what I needed (even though 5 mins previously he had never heard of a torque wrench) - I was not convinced, and put off by the cost - so left confused.

I'm sure it can be done cheaper than this, I've been advised since - £50 or £60 notes new (still ouch!). but I am no expert. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Nick_F

10,295 posts

253 months

Friday 20th July 2007
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£170 with a full socket set thrown in? Bargain! Go and speak to the bloke in the Snap-On van...

Beyond Rational

3,527 posts

222 months

Saturday 21st July 2007
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Depends on the wrench and what amount of torque you need to apply - wrenches to deal with bike sized quantities of torque can be around £20 if you go with Draper or the likes...I don't know how you'd go about getting a torque wrench onto a pedal anywayconfused

I only use one on forks and bleed nipples, everything else you can "feel" (IMHO)

Edited by Beyond Rational on Saturday 21st July 01:46

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st July 2007
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Beyond Rational said:
Depends on the wrench and what amount of torque you need to apply - wrenches to deal with bike sized quantities of torque can be around £20 if you go with Draper or the likes...I don't know how you'd go about getting a torque wrench onto a pedal anywayconfused

I only use one on forks and bleed nipples, everything else you can "feel" (IMHO)

Edited by Beyond Rational on Saturday 21st July 01:46
Scroll up for comments on torquing with the allen recess on the end of the spindle.

You torque bleed nipples? These sould only ever be nipped up. There are v v delicate and easily break off if over tightened ..... then are a complete bitch to get out!!

Beyond Rational

3,527 posts

222 months

Saturday 21st July 2007
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Torque them to the specified amount for that reason wink