120 miles, cycling noob, imminent death??

120 miles, cycling noob, imminent death??

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Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Hi All!

Ok I spend all my time walking or driving.

Haven't ridden a bicycle in years.

But now considering doing this with a group of friends:

http://www.southwarkcyclists.org.uk/social/dunwich...

120 miles in total, overnight.

Generally im fairly fit, 13% body fat, fair amount of muscle.

The issue being i got to this kind of build by pretty much just doing weights etc at the gym, hardly any cardio.

The event is end of july, giving me approx 6 weeks to train up for it.

Can it be done?

Or am i kidding myself completely??

Rico

7,916 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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You sound like you've got the fitness to cope, but unless you get in the miles, your arse is gonna ache more than a gay pornstars.

Just get out and ride for long distances smile

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Yep def seeing the seat as being a major issue.

I'm assuming gel sets aren't a wonder cure either?

Going to try and pick up a cheap racer this weekend to start hooning around on.

In terms of training, is it just cycle cycle then cycle some more?

Is it worth me concentrating more on my leg muscles when at the gym in terms of weight training?

Nick_F

10,295 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Nope. Just get out on the bike. A lot. And have a look at decent quality bike shorts etc.

100 miles is the cycling equivalent of a marathon, except it takes longer...

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Nick_F said:
100 miles is the cycling equivalent of a marathon, except it takes longer...
Looking forward to it already! wobble

Sarkmeister

1,678 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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I stupidly volunteered to do 300 miles in 3 days in Sept.

Training is going pretty well, doing 150 miles a week at the mo which isnt too bad.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

278 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Your ringpiece is going to be like a fresh bullet wound.


ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Nick_F said:
Nope. Just get out on the bike. A lot. And have a look at decent quality bike shorts etc.

100 miles is the cycling equivalent of a marathon, except it takes longer...
Definitely get some padded shorts. They don't have to be lycra but the padding is very helpful smile

Nish

Original Poster:

601 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Your ringpiece is going to be like a fresh bullet wound.
ok im not planning to win any fashion contests here, so can i just tape a cushion to the seat?????

Trooper2

6,676 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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ewenm said:
Nick_F said:
Nope. Just get out on the bike. A lot. And have a look at decent quality bike shorts etc.

100 miles is the cycling equivalent of a marathon, except it takes longer...
Definitely get some padded shorts. They don't have to be lycra but the padding is very helpful smile
Thirded on the proper cycling shorts, they make more of a difference than the seat does. I've always had good luck with Pearl Izumi brand. Plan on spending around 25 GBP for a decent pair.

Black5

579 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Sounds fun

rofl

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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I'm starting to have second thoughts I must admit.

My daily drive is a SL55 and feel the need for seat massaging after about 20 mins of being seated.

I'm not ready for this kind of abuse!

cry

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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OK, for comfort, as well as the cycling shorts make sure the bike is set up properly for you. Saddle height is usually the one newbies get wrong. Your leg should be almost straight when you're sat on the saddle and the pedal is at the bottom of the stroke. Too high and you'll be rocking your hips from side to side as you pedal; too low and you'll not be efficient and I find I get sore knees.

Also make sure the handlebars are at a comfortable height and distance away from you (stem height and length adjustments)

ADD vantage

5,964 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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If the seat is too soft, you will get pressure points in your soft tissue from not moving around and it will hurt a LOT more. A firm seat, plenty of acclimation, that's what you need.

Here's a potential training schedule. 10 weeks.
www.bicycling.com/fastcentury

Let me know how it goes. I am interested in doing some century rides too.

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Thanks for all the advice guys!

I'm going to try and pick up a cheap racer this weekend then just start cycling asap.

We're not going to be trying to break nay records, I think the aim will be to average a steady 10-14mph and aim for approx 10 hours to complete the full 120 miles.

Pigfarmer3

191 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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10-14mph is pretty slow. I mean as in the only time I'll ever see that kind of speed on my odometer is when I'm stopping at light or a junction.

I'd look to be doing at least 28kph/17.5mph. If your riding a racer you'll find that they get a lot less stable down on the lower speeds. The thing to remember is that once you have a fluent speed its easier to keep that then constantly push the legs out when at a lower/less fluent speed. Keep the cadence (pedal rotations) high and you'll be fine.

To save your arse there are mens saddles with holes in the middle. I ride this on my training racer (http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=s1098), but don't get that as it's too thin for longer distances (trust me - London to Paris on that brand new over three days and I was sure my chances of having kids were gone!).

Anyway, I've never heard of this race (I mean ride wink) before. Think I might just see you there! Haha

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Sound advice there.

The average speed is guestimate by us, I've yet to sit on a racer and give it a go to see whats what in terms of speeds etc.

Might well have the SL in tow as a support car lol in case things get really bad, if you come along look out for the stragglers at the back holding on to the doors of a merc for a free ride!

Roman

2,032 posts

226 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Those saddles are good. Make sure that any any new saddle, shorts, shoes etc are well worn in for several weeks before the ride. 12-15mph average inc. stops should be ok.

Get a few 70+ mile rides in before the event. It looks like fun.

Something like a Giant SCR2 or 3 would be a good choice for a cheap comfortable roadbike.

ATG

21,319 posts

279 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Nish ... you mentaller. If you put your mind to it, you can do a huge amount in 6 weeks, so I can't see any reason why you won't manage it, but there will be some pain involved.

Get someone who knows road bikes to help you pick a bike and then set it up for you. You've clearly got f/all time to waste, but there's no point rushing it and getting the wrong bike. If I were you I'd be looking for something clsoer to a fast tourer than an out and out racer. If you don't have a mate who you trust to get this right first time, go along to a proper old school bike shop run by enthusiastic mentallers, tell them what you're doing and let them help you.

If you haven't riddden a bike like this before, there will be quite a few things to get used to (toe clips or cleats, differnt ways to hold drop handle bars, changing gears to keep your foot speed efficient, and how to pace yourself). And it will probably feel bloody awful, wobbly and dangerous the first time you get on it, even if it is set up perfectly for you. Best to ride with someone with experience so they can advise you and you can watch what they do. After you've had some hours in the saddle, it'll all click and the bike will feel like an extension of your body.

Riding a long distance like that in a group, I'd get used to slip streaming too. Makes a big difference.

Nish

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601 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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ATG said:
Nish ... you mentaller.

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Cheers for the advice

Will def pick up a bike this weekend and get going.

I'm sure I can complete the event its just a matter of the amount of pain/damage inflicted!

Is it wirth considering cheap second hand bikes? Or should I be going for something new and more suitable?

By cheap, I mean REALLY cheap.

To add to the challenge we're giving ourselves a 80 quid budget! But if this could cause serious issues we can avoid that part of the "fun".