Ludicrous Highway code revision effects cyclist
Discussion
I don't know whether this is common knowledge or been discussed, I couldn't find a link on these pages, but this is crazy, see text below, and do your bit. Z
Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
Zhead said:
I don't know whether this is common knowledge or been discussed, I couldn't find a link on these pages, but this is crazy, see text below, and do your bit. Z
Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
I am afraid that I agree with this.Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
Along the seafront near me the council have narrowed the road and built a dedicated two lane cycle way which is seperated form the road/pavement by kerbs etc.
The road is now so narrow that there is just enough space to get cars/vehicles passing each way and buses just manage to squeeze between the traffic islands.
So now we get cyclists(normally of the lycra clad variety) who think they have the right not to use the cycleway, ride on the road and because the road is narrowed all the traffic stacks up behind them at 10-15mph causing massive congestion.
These powers should allow the police to resolve this situation.
Why should cyclists have their cake and eat it, they moan when they don't have dedicated cycle paths, they then get them and don't use them.
As an aside I regularly use the cycleway and its fine for all speeds of cycling.
I must be the lycra variety of cyclist. I almost always cycle on the road even when there is an alternative cycle path. The problem with cycle paths is that they are usually poorly designed,taking you a very indirect route to a destination and frequently ending abruptly and making you use the road again. Also poorly signposted, difficult to navigate and often dangerous when part of the road. Yes I am sorry to the drivers that get infuriated being held up by cyclists but I think a bit of perspective is required in that this hold up has probably no effect on the time to reach your final destination given the amount of traffic on the roads these days. Sadly most drivers in the london area lack this insight as I find only a small proportion of drivers executing a proper overtaking maneouvre to pass me while most try to squeeze past me and running me into the ditch. Also the roads state of repair is usually dreadful and forcing you to occupy the middle of your side of the road.......
Any how this legislation really is terrible for cyclists and drivers and I urge everyone to sign the petition.
Any how this legislation really is terrible for cyclists and drivers and I urge everyone to sign the petition.
Egbert Nobacon said:
Zhead said:
I don't know whether this is common knowledge or been discussed, I couldn't find a link on these pages, but this is crazy, see text below, and do your bit. Z
Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
I am afraid that I agree with this.Take a look at this, you might want to sign it (before 18th June).
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/roads4bikes/
Petition to stop approval of the revised Highway Code.
The revised Highway Code says cyclists should "use cycle facilities where possible". If this Code is approved, cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities. The implications of this are too bad to contemplate.
First we will suffer more abuse and intimidating driving. Second, if a cyclist is involved in an accident and tries to claim damages, the insurance companies are likely to argue that the rider contributed to the accident by not using the cycle facility.
The Highway Code has been laid before parliament. It will automatically be approved unless it is referred to a House of Commons Committee which cannot amend it and can only recommend the whole document be rejected. It will take an unprecedented amount of adverse publicity to persuade the government to reject the Highway Code in its entirety.
It is interesting to note that 35 MP's objected to the original revised wording. Unfortunately, the replacement wording is no better. Only 11,000 objections were received to the previous wording. If this Highway Code is approved by government cyclists will effectively lose the right to ride on the road where there are alternative routes or adjacent facilities.
Please register your name on the petition and persuade others to do the same.
Along the seafront near me the council have narrowed the road and built a dedicated two lane cycle way which is seperated form the road/pavement by kerbs etc.
The road is now so narrow that there is just enough space to get cars/vehicles passing each way and buses just manage to squeeze between the traffic islands.
So now we get cyclists(normally of the lycra clad variety) who think they have the right not to use the cycleway, ride on the road and because the road is narrowed all the traffic stacks up behind them at 10-15mph causing massive congestion.
These powers should allow the police to resolve this situation.
Why should cyclists have their cake and eat it, they moan when they don't have dedicated cycle paths, they then get them and don't use them.
As an aside I regularly use the cycleway and its fine for all speeds of cycling.
This legislation would make it compulsary for anyone riding a bike to use these lanes, many of which are dangerous, badly planned and badly maintained and totally unsuitable for a cycle travelling at 20+mph. In fact many cycle paths are dangerous bringing together pedestrians and cycles near busy road junctions, pedestrian crossings and bus stops.
The point of the petition is to allow the cyclist to choose the route appropriate to them. I use them when they are appropriate but on many journeys I am travelling between 20mph and 30mph and causing little or no obstruction to anybody. Using a cyclepath on the same stretch may mean having to exit and re-enter the road at several points, and crossing road junctions bringing me into conflict with other traffic and pedestrians - causing more danger than simply cycling on the road at traffic speeds.
The point of this petition is to give cyclists a choice. I agree some riders do themselves no favours by annoying other road users with their selfish behaviour, but the majority just want to get from A-B in the safest way possible, and should be left to decide for themselves. When I drive I know to give cyclist space, and motorbikes more room to filter. Most drivers dont ride a bike or cycle so why should they care? Making cyclist use cycle lanes wont do anything to change this attitude. Our roads are getting more crowded and road users less tolerant. I dont have solutions but this new law isn't one of them.
Cycle paths tend to be a PITA in my (admittedly limited) experience. They have a habbit of starting and ending quite randomly. We have them built onto the pavment near me, except they suddenly just stop every so often, leaving you on the pavment on the offside of the road, which realistically means you need to dismount. Staying on the road adds a few seconds of time, but means you just follow the normal traffic laws at roundabouts etc. and so avoids al the confusion.
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