Lightweight Mountain Bikes are a waste of money!!

Lightweight Mountain Bikes are a waste of money!!

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mat205125

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17,790 posts

218 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Had an enjoyable ride out round our local woods on Saturday despite the temperature hovering just above freezing point.

My bike, however, has shown up a US design based weakness .... The mud clearance is pretty poor.

That said, 6" deep, trainer swallowing clay isn't the nicest to ride through. By the time we'd cleared the worst section of the trail, I could barely lift my bike over a fallen tree, and the wheels were a bit reluctant to turn too. Joy!!

Don't think the attendant in the garage was too chuffed either when that all got hosed off on his forecourt on the drive home. hehe


Edited by mat205125 on Monday 5th February 12:47

beyond rational

3,527 posts

220 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Well maybe if you had carbon fibre drilled jockey wheels and carbon headset spacers (which save all of about 5 grammes) you would have found it easier to lift!

mat205125

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17,790 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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I might start filling my tyres with Helium

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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The US olympic track squad have already tried this.

mat205125

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17,790 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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I thought it was tradional for Americans to fill everthing with HOT AIR hehe

Did it have any effect though?

Hydrogen is even lighter, but punctures could be slightly more severe occasions.

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Biggest problem is making a tube to hold it in, because of the molecular size it causes a problem, they deflated very quickly.

beyond rational

3,527 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Didn't someone fill the frame with helium or is that an urban myth? Seems like it would take some good welding...

Jwb

332 posts

243 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Why bother filling your frame with Helium when nothing ie a vacuum would be lighter?

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Jwb said:
Why bother filling your frame with Helium when nothing ie a vacuum would be lighter?


More strength required in the tube walls to stop it imploding therefore more mass required. yes

mat205125

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17,790 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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How about some kind of mud repelling agent to treat the bike?

I do admit to having plastered my bike in autoglym when I first got it (frame and forks only!). It means that it takes little more than a gentle rinse with the hose to clean it up after a ride.

It doesn't actually noticably stop trail dirt from sticking to it though. Anything else worth a try? Teflon based polish if such a thing exists?

BadgerBenji

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223 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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mat205125 said:
How about some kind of mud repelling agent to treat the bike?


Car polish works very well, used to always polish the cross bike, it did help.

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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How about using your hands when you stop?

BadgerBenji

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223 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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ewenm said:
How about using your hands when you stop?


Mud back into gloves, or mud onto grips, erm nope.

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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BadgerBenji said:
ewenm said:
How about using your hands when you stop?


Mud back into gloves, or mud onto grips, erm nope.

It's how I do it. Take gloves off, get mud off bike until bored (usually very quickly for me), wipe hands on shorts, put gloves on, ride on.

BadgerBenji

3,524 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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ewenm said:
BadgerBenji said:
ewenm said:
How about using your hands when you stop?


Mud back into gloves, or mud onto grips, erm nope.

It's how I do it. Take gloves off, get mud off bike until bored (usually very quickly for me), wipe hands on shorts, put gloves on, ride on.


Move away from being a primitive, use a tool, a stick is handy and you can keep your gloves on

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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BadgerBenji said:
ewenm said:
BadgerBenji said:
ewenm said:
How about using your hands when you stop?


Mud back into gloves, or mud onto grips, erm nope.

It's how I do it. Take gloves off, get mud off bike until bored (usually very quickly for me), wipe hands on shorts, put gloves on, ride on.


Move away from being a primitive, use a tool, a stick is handy and you can keep your gloves on


hehe True, true. Anyway, think of the extra weight the mud adds as providing a better workout for you

pdV6

16,442 posts

266 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Having trouble working out why anyone would bother removing mud ½ way 'round on a ride unless it was causing a problem (e.g. tyres jamming in frame etc)

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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pdV6 said:
Having trouble working out why anyone would bother removing mud ½ way 'round on a ride unless it was causing a problem (e.g. tyres jamming in frame etc)

Yep, get it off the stays by the tyre and top of the forks. Apart from that, leave it.

Moose.

5,339 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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pdV6 said:
Having trouble working out why anyone would bother removing mud ½ way 'round on a ride unless it was causing a problem (e.g. tyres jamming in frame etc)

Ditto confused The only issue I've had that's caused me to stop, was when I rode through a load of bracken which promptly wrapped itself round the rear mech (that was a right pain to remove!).

tigger1

8,402 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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BadgerBenji said:
Jwb said:
Why bother filling your frame with Helium when nothing ie a vacuum would be lighter?


More strength required in the tube walls to stop it imploding therefore more mass required. yes


[stupid mode] Why would helium be heavier than a vaccuum?[/stupid mode]