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My "Best Babe" has been put away for the winter. She comes out when the clocks go forward again. All wrapped up and protected from the nasty elements in my garage, she will sleep soundly until the daffodils are out.
The trusty Audax now comes into its own. 25mm tyres and mudguards. Ho-hum, Tempus fugit.
The trusty Audax now comes into its own. 25mm tyres and mudguards. Ho-hum, Tempus fugit.
Edited by saddle bum on Friday 27th October 16:08
I'll keep it simple and use short words.
The post was meant to be a whimsical comment on the passing of yet another summer and the onset of wet, nasty weather, necessitating the use of gloopy tyres, mudguards and gloves.
The F1 road bike is not suited to these conditons, so it is mothballed - allowing the opportunity for the annual chain and brake block replacement and common sense maintenance.
The machine? Normal aluminium and carbon mix, all Campag equiped and several sets of wheels.
The post was meant to be a whimsical comment on the passing of yet another summer and the onset of wet, nasty weather, necessitating the use of gloopy tyres, mudguards and gloves.
The F1 road bike is not suited to these conditons, so it is mothballed - allowing the opportunity for the annual chain and brake block replacement and common sense maintenance.
The machine? Normal aluminium and carbon mix, all Campag equiped and several sets of wheels.
saddle bum said:
I'll keep it simple and use short words.
The post was meant to be a whimsical comment on the passing of yet another summer and the onset of wet, nasty weather, necessitating the use of gloopy tyres, mudguards and gloves.
The F1 road bike is not suited to these conditons, so it is mothballed - allowing the opportunity for the annual chain and brake block replacement and common sense maintenance.
The machine? Normal aluminium and carbon mix, all Campag equiped and several sets of wheels.
The post was meant to be a whimsical comment on the passing of yet another summer and the onset of wet, nasty weather, necessitating the use of gloopy tyres, mudguards and gloves.
The F1 road bike is not suited to these conditons, so it is mothballed - allowing the opportunity for the annual chain and brake block replacement and common sense maintenance.
The machine? Normal aluminium and carbon mix, all Campag equiped and several sets of wheels.
No fair! You said short words.
bga said:
don't worry sb, I also packed away my recently acquired bitsa (nice bits though) for the winter, going back to the EBC Courier that is perfect for the commute.
Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
Shimano don't make an XTR seat bolt. The Hope seatclamp is tasty though. Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
Mmmm 1996 
those were the days
To add: no hibernation here, just an investment in grease and regular washing/serivicing, not a lot to rust and what does can be replaced, nothing like trying to fix a puncture (fingers crossed) with numb hands
those were the days To add: no hibernation here, just an investment in grease and regular washing/serivicing, not a lot to rust and what does can be replaced, nothing like trying to fix a puncture (fingers crossed) with numb hands
Edited by beyond rational on Sunday 29th October 00:22
moleamol said:
bga said:
don't worry sb, I also packed away my recently acquired bitsa (nice bits though) for the winter, going back to the EBC Courier that is perfect for the commute.
Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
Shimano don't make an XTR seat bolt. The Hope seatclamp is tasty though. Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
mmmmmm hope
Edited by bga on Sunday 29th October 10:05
bga said:
don't worry sb, I also packed away my recently acquired bitsa (nice bits though) for the winter, going back to the EBC Courier that is perfect for the commute.
Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
Gave me just as much fun as others seem to get from frapping themselves over the latest XTR seat bolt.
Well, half the reason why those people enthuse over the lovely high end kit is because they know it will cope with being ridden throughout the winter.
My bike is currently plastered with mud, and will stay like this for the winter. Its ridden through any mud or grime thrown its way, and gives me a great smile doing so.
Roadies have this 'holier than thou' attitude that really pisses off the MTB contingent - we can appreciate kit as much as the next person, however, theres far to much snobbiness in the road scene, and you guys have just displayed it perfectly.
I mean who gives a toss about if a bike gets mothballed - I'd rather a bike be ridden, not be put on the wall for show.
beyond rational said:
To add: no hibernation here, just an investment in grease and regular washing/serivicing, not a lot to rust and what does can be replaced, nothing like trying to fix a puncture (fingers crossed) with numb hands
Indeed. Just the way riding should be.
Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 30th October 10:45
neil_cardiff said:
Roadies have this 'holier than thou' attitude that really pisses off the MTB contingent - we can appreciate kit as much as the next person, however, theres far to much snobbiness in the road scene, and you guys have just displayed it perfectly.
What complete bollox, there is as much BS with each scene. There are some prime cocks in both as you well demonstrated with your disparaging comment when someone wanted to talk about a bike related topic. As you don't give a toss about what people choose to do with their bikes, why make a plonker comment in the first place when someone is free to do what the hell they like with their own bike? This forum is Pedal Powered & therefore I assume that all sorts of riding is catered for.
Edited by bga on Monday 30th October 11:41
bga said:
neil_cardiff said:
Roadies have this 'holier than thou' attitude that really pisses off the MTB contingent - we can appreciate kit as much as the next person, however, theres far to much snobbiness in the road scene, and you guys have just displayed it perfectly.
What complete bollox, there is as much BS with each scene. There are some prime cocks in both as you well demonstrated with your disparaging comment when someone wanted to talk about a bike related topic. As you don't give a toss about what people choose to do with their bikes, why make a plonker comment in the first place?
Because, as someone quite rightly pointed out, he should have at least made there a point to the thread. I was close to closing it with a WTF? comment, but seeing as this would have inflammatory, I left it.
Now I can't vouch for others, but I tried to join a road cycling club years and years ago, and was left very upset by the attitude that the guys there came across with. I had a shit bike, yet still posted a good time in a time trial I had a go at. Nobody bothered to chat or congratulate me. Needless to say, I never went back. Indeed whenever I see roadies on the road, they never say hello, or have a chat if stopped.
Yet if I'm at a MTB race, everyone is chatty, at DH races its very friendly, swapping lines and techniques with eachother, and definitly no picking at eachothers bikes. Furthermore, if I go riding on our local trail, everyone we pass says hello, if not stops for natter.
Now again, I can't say that this goes for all roadies ever, but my years working in bike shops told me enough that many are up their arse when it comes to looking down at MTBers.
As a result, I tend to be standoffish with roadies, if they display traits where they are genuinely interested in my bike and my riding, then I will gladly chat back to them as if they were any other MTBer.
Remember that a lot of new MTBers (especially XC racers) are roadies disillusioned with the attitudes that can be displayed within their own camps, and they come across for some great events - like the 24hr Red Bull event, which anyone can enter and be competitive. Something I think can be difficult to say for the road scene.
fair enough, we all have different experiences. I found the MTB lot to be just as arsey as the roadie lot when it came to having crap kit.
With regards to the point of the thread, there is no difference to sb's post & someone passing comments on an enjoyable ride that they had for example. Being rude because someone is not interested in that particular thread is not a great way to to encourage people to use the forum more to discuss bike stuff.
With regards to the point of the thread, there is no difference to sb's post & someone passing comments on an enjoyable ride that they had for example. Being rude because someone is not interested in that particular thread is not a great way to to encourage people to use the forum more to discuss bike stuff.
bga said:
fair enough, we all have different experiences. I found the MTB lot to be just as arsey as the roadie lot when it came to having crap kit.
With regards to the point of the thread, there is no difference to sb's post & someone passing comments on an enjoyable ride that they had for example. Being rude because someone is not interested in that particular thread is not a great way to to encourage people to use the forum more to discuss bike stuff.
With regards to the point of the thread, there is no difference to sb's post & someone passing comments on an enjoyable ride that they had for example. Being rude because someone is not interested in that particular thread is not a great way to to encourage people to use the forum more to discuss bike stuff.
Fair point, however, you get more sensible responses when theres a point to the thread. For instance, someone explaining how great there ride was could be finished with an explanation of where it was for example, and has anyone else had a good ride?
SB's post was a bit pointless to say the least, a bit like if I had posted a thread saying that I had put a xmas tree up. Interesting to me perhaps, but sure as hell no one else.
However, if I had posted a picture of said xmas tree, explained what made it special, and asked what others had done with their trees, that would work.
Perhaps maybe I shouldn't have been so rude, however, still a pretty boring thread. If he had let us have a picture to gawp at, then we would have all been happy.
Carbon/titanium/expensive steel/aluminium* gets any cyclist, regardless of disciple (sp?) excited.
*delete as applicable
p.s. We haven't seen any pictures of Saddle Bums bikes (I checked the Show off yer bike thread) - you do have these bikes, don't you? - why not show them off?
neil_cardiff said:
bga said:
neil_cardiff said:
Roadies have this 'holier than thou' attitude that really pisses off the MTB contingent - we can appreciate kit as much as the next person, however, theres far to much snobbiness in the road scene, and you guys have just displayed it perfectly.
What complete bollox, there is as much BS with each scene. There are some prime cocks in both as you well demonstrated with your disparaging comment when someone wanted to talk about a bike related topic. As you don't give a toss about what people choose to do with their bikes, why make a plonker comment in the first place?
Because, as someone quite rightly pointed out, he should have at least made there a point to the thread. I was close to closing it with a WTF? comment, but seeing as this would have inflammatory, I left it.
Now I can't vouch for others, but I tried to join a road cycling club years and years ago, and was left very upset by the attitude that the guys there came across with. I had a shit bike, yet still posted a good time in a time trial I had a go at. Nobody bothered to chat or congratulate me. Needless to say, I never went back. Indeed whenever I see roadies on the road, they never say hello, or have a chat if stopped.
Yet if I'm at a MTB race, everyone is chatty, at DH races its very friendly, swapping lines and techniques with eachother, and definitly no picking at eachothers bikes. Furthermore, if I go riding on our local trail, everyone we pass says hello, if not stops for natter.
Now again, I can't say that this goes for all roadies ever, but my years working in bike shops told me enough that many are up their arse when it comes to looking down at MTBers.
As a result, I tend to be standoffish with roadies, if they display traits where they are genuinely interested in my bike and my riding, then I will gladly chat back to them as if they were any other MTBer.
Remember that a lot of new MTBers (especially XC racers) are roadies disillusioned with the attitudes that can be displayed within their own camps, and they come across for some great events - like the 24hr Red Bull event, which anyone can enter and be competitive. Something I think can be difficult to say for the road scene.
Sorry guys, I was only trying to be a bit laid back and philosophical.
The various groupings within the cycling scene are at liberty to do as they please, although I draw the line at another rider being rude and ignorant by not returning a greeting when we cross on the road.
People engaging in all sorts of pastimes can be "up their own arse" about anything. So what, it's their loss if they cannot engage in the normal exchanges and banter.
There is one thing that does get up my nose and that is riders who persistently refuse to clean their machine(s). It is not cool to ride around looking like a gardner in his veggie patch - mud and shite every where. It does the sport or pastime no favours and presents an unpleasant image to the public. So when my "best babe" is laid up, bike cleaning does not stop. The "wet bike" gets the same TLC. I consider it an investment, as clean eqipment lasts longer and will not fail in use and, being an engineer, I just love messing about with bikes.
This thread was wrong footed from the outset, it turned negative when it could have been a positive, finding out what we all do riding wise over winter for example, we live and learn.
All past times have their snobs and we can probably all seem to some to think too much of ourselves in whatever disipline - I've a friend who is very keen surfer (they can be just as bad!!!), he derided mountain biking, could not understand/get into it etc. ... so when I had a spare bike, made him put his money where his mouth is and took him up the hills - hes now hooked, amazing what a relativly decent bike and a bit of encouragement will do - but sometimes being accepted into a group on your own is hard work.
I am really annoyed by the "all the gear, no idea" types though, they seem to be the worst when it comes to attitudes - too much belief in the importance of the bike IMHO - a good rider on a £400 bike will always whoop an average one on a £4000 machine
All past times have their snobs and we can probably all seem to some to think too much of ourselves in whatever disipline - I've a friend who is very keen surfer (they can be just as bad!!!), he derided mountain biking, could not understand/get into it etc. ... so when I had a spare bike, made him put his money where his mouth is and took him up the hills - hes now hooked, amazing what a relativly decent bike and a bit of encouragement will do - but sometimes being accepted into a group on your own is hard work.
I am really annoyed by the "all the gear, no idea" types though, they seem to be the worst when it comes to attitudes - too much belief in the importance of the bike IMHO - a good rider on a £400 bike will always whoop an average one on a £4000 machine
saddle bum said:
There is one thing that does get up my nose and that is riders who persistently refuse to clean their machine(s). It is not cool to ride around looking like a gardner in his veggie patch - mud and shite every where. It does the sport or pastime no favours and presents an unpleasant image to the public. So when my "best babe" is laid up, bike cleaning does not stop. The "wet bike" gets the same TLC. I consider it an investment, as clean eqipment lasts longer and will not fail in use and, being an engineer, I just love messing about with bikes.
I'm afraid I can't really see it doing the image of MTB any harm at all, nor the bike as long as the moving parts are looked after.
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