Cycling and speed limits
Discussion
Going through a 20 mph just now I got overtaken by bicycle riders. On both sides actually so a reminder of my road position.
It was both ways on same route.
Do you think they are speeding, any chance of getting caught?
Before all the hate starts, I drive a car, ride a motorbike and cycle frequently.
It was both ways on same route.
Do you think they are speeding, any chance of getting caught?
Before all the hate starts, I drive a car, ride a motorbike and cycle frequently.
This is where you know the speed limit is just silly low, when pedal bikes are regularly above it.
Got overtaken on a ride the other day in an NSL by a Volvo. Who 5 seconds later proceeded to brake heavily all the way down the next hill, rarely reaching the heady heights of 30mph, and holding me up most the way down. Could we have minimum vehicle speed limits, too?
Got overtaken on a ride the other day in an NSL by a Volvo. Who 5 seconds later proceeded to brake heavily all the way down the next hill, rarely reaching the heady heights of 30mph, and holding me up most the way down. Could we have minimum vehicle speed limits, too?
It should be reiterated that the reasons speed limits mostly exist (including 20 zones) is because of CARS hitting people. The whole 20 campaign is because chances of survival of being hit at 20 vs 30 are vast.
Bikes obviously can hit people too, but rare and all of the research into and deaths in the roads are generally car related - “can they be done for speeding” is a touch silly if you think about why the limit exists in the first place - to save lives.
Bikes obviously can hit people too, but rare and all of the research into and deaths in the roads are generally car related - “can they be done for speeding” is a touch silly if you think about why the limit exists in the first place - to save lives.
As a cyclist I would generally not overtake a car travelling at 20 in a 20, though there may be reasons why it's an appropriate thing to do, like if the 20 leads into congestion and traffic lights and I know I'll be filtering my way ahead rather holding you up later. Chances are the reason it's 20 mean it's probably sensible to ride more cautiously.
Riding in a group I think those circumstances rapidly dwindle to zero as a group ride wouldn't be heading into congestion normally. If a group was overtaking you on both sides at the same time (?) that's a group I wouldn't ride with again.
Riding in a group I think those circumstances rapidly dwindle to zero as a group ride wouldn't be heading into congestion normally. If a group was overtaking you on both sides at the same time (?) that's a group I wouldn't ride with again.
defblade said:
This is where you know the speed limit is just silly low, when pedal bikes are regularly above it.
Got overtaken on a ride the other day in an NSL by a Volvo. Who 5 seconds later proceeded to brake heavily all the way down the next hill, rarely reaching the heady heights of 30mph, and holding me up most the way down. Could we have minimum vehicle speed limits, too?
Ah, so it’s ok for you to hold up us Volvo drivers up hills, but not ok for us to hold you up on the downhills?Got overtaken on a ride the other day in an NSL by a Volvo. Who 5 seconds later proceeded to brake heavily all the way down the next hill, rarely reaching the heady heights of 30mph, and holding me up most the way down. Could we have minimum vehicle speed limits, too?
That’s not fair!
OutInTheShed said:
Do they still have the 15mph limit on the cycle/foot path on the Severn Bridge?
Anywhere else?
Does this have a local byelaw or something behind it?
It's true there is no legal requirement for a speedometer on a pushbike, but if you have one, as many bikes do, where would you stand?
That exists, but doesn't apply to cyclists (mopeds can use that track). Information straight from National Highways. It theoretically could apply, as the Severn Bridge is a Special Road, including the cycle tracks, and not a public highway. Thus traffic regulation is under RTRA 1984 § 17 rather than §84 (the one that says "motor vehicle"). However, the regulations clearly aren't worded so as to apply.Anywhere else?
Does this have a local byelaw or something behind it?
It's true there is no legal requirement for a speedometer on a pushbike, but if you have one, as many bikes do, where would you stand?
Unlike the A87 Skye Bridge extension, which has a speed limit that legally does apply to cyclists.
The A87 Extension (Skye Bridge Crossing) Special Road Regulations 1995
Strangely, the track on the nearby Avonmouth Bridge is a public highway.
AndrewGP said:
As long as there’s no local bye law in place, then the speed limit dies not apply to pushbikes. The Highway Code specifically states that the speed limit applies to motor vehicles and they are therefore exempt.
... but interestingly Highway Code said:
Rule 69
You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
And lots of 'pushbikes' have motors these days You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
speedking31 said:
AndrewGP said:
As long as there’s no local bye law in place, then the speed limit dies not apply to pushbikes. The Highway Code specifically states that the speed limit applies to motor vehicles and they are therefore exempt.
... but interestingly Highway Code said:
Rule 69
You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
And lots of 'pushbikes' have motors these days You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
And e-bikes don’t necessarily have speedometers.
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