Giant’s ‘Conduct’ braking system
Discussion
Does anyone have any experience with this hybrid mechanical / hydraulic operated disc brake? Its mechanical levers to a master cylinder on the stem and from there to hydraulic callipers. It gets a few YouTube haters but that might be overly critical. I can’t seem to find what the actual problem is. Anyone know?
Giant dropped it after a year.
So, what’s a real user experiencing?
I guess if it becomes a problem there’s a few solutions:
Fit mech callipers and operate from the mechanical shifters
Fit hydraulic 105 levers straight to the existing hydraulic Giant callipers
Fit hydraulic 105 shifters and callipers
Anyone tried these options.?
Giant dropped it after a year.
So, what’s a real user experiencing?
I guess if it becomes a problem there’s a few solutions:
Fit mech callipers and operate from the mechanical shifters
Fit hydraulic 105 levers straight to the existing hydraulic Giant callipers
Fit hydraulic 105 shifters and callipers
Anyone tried these options.?
These are a new one to me, never heard of them before but look like an overly complicated solution to a problem.
If a cable operated hydraulic caliper is what you want then surely it's easier to keep everything at the caliper end like TRP and Juin Tech do? One unit, no hydraulic hoses and so less chance of getting air in the system.
If a cable operated hydraulic caliper is what you want then surely it's easier to keep everything at the caliper end like TRP and Juin Tech do? One unit, no hydraulic hoses and so less chance of getting air in the system.
Yeah I had a giant contend with these brakes and they worked very well. No issues never needed bleeding and ment you could run cheaper shifters (normally designed for rim brakes). It was a bit ugly at the front of bike, but came with a built in mount ans once had a Garmin and light mounted didn't really.notice.
I just don't see the reason behind it. Why have extra weight and cables to deal with? Cables stretch over time and need to be changed. Hydraulic brakes need bleeding as well, but here you have both to deal with. I just don't get it.
Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
Siao said:
I just don't see the reason behind it. Why have extra weight and cables to deal with? Cables stretch over time and need to be changed. Hydraulic brakes need bleeding as well, but here you have both to deal with. I just don't get it.
Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
The reason is simple, costs, they have to build to a price point and it is why they often use cheaper chainsets, hydraulic levers would add costs to a bike, this idea and using mechanical levers saves money. Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
Had it on a defy advanced I bought and ran for 6 months.
No issues whatsoever - worked fine Only gipe i had was couldnt get a standard garmin mount on the bars as the conduct system gets in the way.
Had to buy an overpriced attachment from Giant dealer that attached via the stem bolts - cost 25 quid for a small bit of metal !
As above - only needed for a short while to make mechanical shifters work with hydraulic brakes. Worked better than cable brakes and almost as good as fully hydrauulic.
Sold the bike in the end but wasnt due to the braking, it just didnt look very neat...
No issues whatsoever - worked fine Only gipe i had was couldnt get a standard garmin mount on the bars as the conduct system gets in the way.
Had to buy an overpriced attachment from Giant dealer that attached via the stem bolts - cost 25 quid for a small bit of metal !
As above - only needed for a short while to make mechanical shifters work with hydraulic brakes. Worked better than cable brakes and almost as good as fully hydrauulic.
Sold the bike in the end but wasnt due to the braking, it just didnt look very neat...
WPA said:
Siao said:
I just don't see the reason behind it. Why have extra weight and cables to deal with? Cables stretch over time and need to be changed. Hydraulic brakes need bleeding as well, but here you have both to deal with. I just don't get it.
Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
The reason is simple, costs, they have to build to a price point and it is why they often use cheaper chainsets, hydraulic levers would add costs to a bike, this idea and using mechanical levers saves money. Their sales pitch was that it gives you smooth braking, as if the wired ones or the hydraulic ones don't. Literally 0 benefit and more weight and things that could go wrong.
I do like the looks of it, contrary to everyone else!
Thanks for all your inputs; far more balanced than I’d been reading. I’ve also watched a couple of YouTube videos on bleeding them too. Although it looks more fiddly than shimano it’s not too bad.
Anyway, I took the plunge and bought a bike with the ‘conduct’ system fitted. As you say it isn’t elegant but, for now at least, it works and there’s a few options to replace the offending items!
It intrigues me as an engineer as much as anything!
I’ll report back!
Anyway, I took the plunge and bought a bike with the ‘conduct’ system fitted. As you say it isn’t elegant but, for now at least, it works and there’s a few options to replace the offending items!
It intrigues me as an engineer as much as anything!
I’ll report back!
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