50 : 34 Chainring and general hard work

50 : 34 Chainring and general hard work

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Pando99

117 posts

65 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Yes 50 34 T pretty normal on a compact set - just need to man up a bit.

Gin and Ultrasonic

231 posts

45 months

Tuesday 30th January
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50-34 is a compact chainset for a road bike. 52-36 tends to be 'semi-compact' and 53-39 is standard. Most new road bikes come in compact or semi-compact.

The ultra sport tyres aren't the fastest, not sure about the wheels. I had ultra sport on a new road bike and swapped them for some Conti GP4000 and the difference was night and day in terms of better grip and rolling much faster, so the other wheels and tyres should hopefully make a big difference.

Your cassette at the back will also affect how easy/hard your gears are. If it's, say, 11-25, then on average it will be a lot harder to pedal than the bigger cogs available on an 11-34. You should ideally try to avoid the big front ring / biggest cassette gear combination (and small / small), as this will wear your chain, cassette and chainrings faster than using the middle of the cassette due to the extra load.

OutInTheShed

8,749 posts

32 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Tyre size and crank length also matter in the 'pedal force to forward thrust' equation.

Sometimes we old gits should listen to the 'proper cyclists' and get off the big chainring, move those legs faster.
It's instructive to spend some time on a turbo trainer and understand what you best pedalling rate is for various effort durations like say a 5 minute climb.

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th January
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As said 50 - 34 is a compact chainset, but I would suspect based on age of your bike it prob has a 11- 28 rear cassette, if the derailleur is long enough you could swap this to an 11-32 to make the gears easier.

Master Bean

3,943 posts

126 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Are your brake pads rubbing?

dudleybloke

20,352 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Rule 5!

thepritch

958 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Could be so many things, and most likely not the actual chainring size.

As hinted above, check everything is running freely, hubs, drivetrain, BB etc. You’re now on a compact, if anything should be easier to ride than your previous bike - but you’re saying it’s properly hard, which for me Indicates something mechanical.

Also check your position compared to your old bike, a difference with this could make riding feel harder and account for slowing you down a touch.

Be aware you will be slower in winter months. My speeds always drop due to extra clothing, winter tyres, muck on drivetrain, weather and the lower temps also impact speed.

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thepritch

958 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Simply remove chain, or lift it to one side off the chainring and spin cranks. They should spin freely in the bb.

My wheel needs new bearings as off the bike it spins freely on the hub, but when clamped it seems to have some friction. New wheels or not, I’d check yours.

When you get the new wheels report back. Even though higher end wheels are faster and more responsive I’d not imagine your current ones are really that bad?

boyse7en

7,029 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th January
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As well as the bike related stuff that may or may not be an issue, it could be that either you're not as fit as you were in the summer or the wet roads and cooler air create more drag on the bike.
Even the extra clothes you wear for a winter wide will create more drag.

RitchieLee

13 posts

12 months

Wednesday 31st January
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Average 1 to 1.5 mph slower in the winter is to be expected, I've 30 years experience of that! Things will start feeling better come springtime and you'll be flying come summer smile

Giantt

570 posts

42 months

Wednesday 31st January
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59 minutes to one hour four doesn't make much odds specially in winter,drop to the small ring keep cadence up,change cassette for wider ratios,even small cage rear mechanism can take 32tooth sprocket

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

58 months

Wednesday 31st January
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If you’re riding at a garage of 20mph you’ve little to worry about.

Stick Legs

5,634 posts

171 months

Wednesday 31st January
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I have a 2014 Wilier GTR.

‘Low end carbon’ yes but the geometry is fantastic & it handles really nicely. Not bad weight either.

I upgraded mine over time with some shiny bits & was planning on buying a new frame, but having tried a Look 695 & a Trek Madone with my components I sold both & kept my Wilier.

I just gel with it I suppose.

Probably need a new bike now it’s 10 years old this summer!




TDi

28 posts

152 months

Wednesday 31st January
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Don't be too hard on yourself, it is January and it sounds like you are comparing times you achieved in summer.

ukbabz

1,589 posts

132 months

Wednesday 31st January
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TDi said:
Don't be too hard on yourself, it is January and it sounds like you are comparing times you achieved in summer.
Riding in the cold air definitely feels harder to achieve the same speeds as summer

Your Dad

1,994 posts

189 months

Wednesday 31st January
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ukbabz said:
Riding in the cold air definitely feels harder to achieve the same speeds as summer
Are you suggesting some things are more dense in winter?

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

58 months

Wednesday 31st January
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anonymous said:
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Welcome to middle age.

ukbabz

1,589 posts

132 months

Wednesday 31st January
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Your Dad said:
ukbabz said:
Riding in the cold air definitely feels harder to achieve the same speeds as summer
Are you suggesting some things are more dense in winter?
You're starting to sound like my bathroom scales...

okgo

39,136 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th February
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Watts are watts. Chainring sizes are irrelevant as long as you can find a gear to ride at the cadence appropriate to your self selected norm.

Suspect combo of winter, st wheels and tyres, heavier potentially given Christmas, less fit, winter clothing - all of the above. It’s why people use metrics that are a bit more repeatable, like power, because speed is very variable.

Petrol pocket rocket - I see the shameless embellishment hasn’t gone away hehe