Titanium

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sherbertdip

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1,165 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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I'm an old codger now, regular cyclist for 40 years, used to race, done long rides and audaxes, PBP etc, had a year off because of injury but want to get back into it and considering a Titanium framed "race" bike.

I've had steel, aluminium (never again) and Carbon framed, each have merit and problems (aluminium framed failed on me at 25 mph braking into a corner resulting in severe damage to me - hence never again).

Can anybody shed light on potential real world problems with a Ti frame?

Zoon

6,823 posts

127 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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The only thing I would say is that correctly welded aluminium shouldn't fail under normal riding conditions.
Was it the weld or tubing that failed?

bobbo89

5,485 posts

151 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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I've seen enough cracked Ti frames to be put off them personally, especially when you consider the cost.

benny.c

3,506 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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I can only offer the anecdotal evidence that both the Ti framed bikes I've owned gave me no problems whatsoever. Ti looks so good smile (IMHO of course).





Daveyraveygravey

2,054 posts

190 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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Have a look at Reilly, they make some more speed-orientated ti frames.

I'm thinking of Fairlight Strael, I know it's steel but to me it looks lovely.

Andy JB

1,320 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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I can only suggest you try Titanium. I have always cycled and own several bikes/frame material.

Ti is a pleasant ride which soaks up the bumps well while being tough & lightweight. My build is a light tourer specced with Sram Force/Red, frame designed by Mark Reilly, but upgraded with specific mods including Hunt wheels. I also off-road it some times, a great allrounder strong & light.

I still ride a steel frame 531 which is remains pleasant if feeling a tad weighty these days compared to more modern offerings - its a 1977 Carlton campag equipped and very elegant but of its time like a classic car it now gets occasional use.

Also i have 2 full carbon bikes a MTB with Shimano XTR and Road bike with Dura Ace/Ultegra. So all makes of group sets too.

They all have their own personality, although Ti is my favourite frame material. Any weaknesses are rare and revolve around the weld joints but can be repaired on the rare occasion of any issue. Never owned an alloy frame though !!

bigtomski

364 posts

202 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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I've had two Ti mountain bikes that I owned for at least 5 years and currently own a Ti gravel bike and IMO they are amazing.
I'm 17 stone and never had a failure on any of my Ti bikes and I was never afraid to chuck the mountain bikes around or ride them hard.
They all ride superbly, I love the fact there's no paintwork to scratch.
I too have had carbon, steel and aluminium frames but my favourite bikes have all been Ti.
I would also look at Reilly, they look great.
On another level is Sturdy Cycles, they're doing some amazing things with Titanium.

Edited by bigtomski on Wednesday 4th October 15:46

andySC

1,221 posts

164 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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Have a look at Enigma. I’ve had an Etape frame of theirs since 2013. It’s built up with mudguards, heavy Mavic Open Pro’s but it’s a sprightly thing to ride & I really enjoy the winter miles I do on it. A pal has the more modern disc version & rates it. They seem well made frames & they have plenty of choice in their range.




Edited by andySC on Wednesday 4th October 16:47

sherbertdip

Original Poster:

1,165 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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Thanks all, reference the Alu' frame that failed, just below the weld between head and down tube (down tube side) effectively the front end bent up and over I went.

I will have a look at the recommendations for frame, I will be buying used, don't really want to build up from a frameset.

sherbertdip

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1,165 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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bobbo89 said:
I've seen enough cracked Ti frames to be put off them personally, especially when you consider the cost.
That is concerning, can you relate to manufacture, usage/age and road/off road usage?

Randy Winkman

17,232 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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Love titanium. Have just hung up my cycling shoes and the Van Nicolas I bought 12 years ago did it's job perfectly as my last bike. Looked the same as the day I got it when it went and I got good money for it too. Titanium bikes never look dated.

demic

409 posts

167 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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sherbertdip said:
bobbo89 said:
I've seen enough cracked Ti frames to be put off them personally, especially when you consider the cost.
That is concerning, can you relate to manufacture, usage/age and road/off road usage?
I think over the years there has been a lot of cheap (relatively speaking!) Ti frames from dubious sources which weren’t welded correctly or had iffy QC control as companies tried to make Ti more affordable corners were cut.

Go with a recognised brand and you should be fine. I’ve had this Cove Hummer for getting on 15 years now, although it’s definitely a garage queen nowadays, it’s survived being thrashed down all the famous decent in the Peaks and shrugged it off.


bobbo89

5,485 posts

151 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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sherbertdip said:
That is concerning, can you relate to manufacture, usage/age and road/off road usage?
Various companies. I should have said that the frames I've seen have all been full sus enduro bikes that have been given some hammer.


sherbertdip

Original Poster:

1,165 posts

125 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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bobbo89 said:
Various companies. I should have said that the frames I've seen have all been full sus enduro bikes that have been given some hammer.

Cheers, I'm now looking in earnest and background reading on companies/manufacturers.

stepaway

469 posts

151 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Another vote for Enigma here. Have had an Echo for around 6 years now. Specced with Ultegra and some Fulcrum Racing Zeros it’s taken me through 6 full years of riding every week 3 times a week whatever the weather, multiple Alpine excursions, multiple sportives, a 254 mile ride in one day and general work 40 mile commutes in the dark/rain/sleet etc.

It doesn’t excel at any one particular thing, but it does do everything to a very good level without complaint or fault so is my go to bike (out of the 25+ I have in the shed)

Go for it I say!


2HFL

1,416 posts

47 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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I have a Ti gravel bike which I’m really happy with, aside from an infuriating creak which I’m trying to diagnose… I don’t have anything to compare it to, having not really ridden much before this, but I’ve smashed the miles out this year and it’s been very capable.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/products/titus-goldrush-...

pastrana72

1,728 posts

214 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Titanium is a fantastic material for a frame if it has been put together properly.

I love the Cove Hummer, the one I rode was made by litespeed in the USA, was fantastic.

Moots are another great company to look, as their titanium frames are one of the best I have seen.

I ride steel now as I prefer the ride,

I was looking at the new Gravel Bike that Curtis Bikes in Somerset have just launched, 853 steel and an absolute masterpiece in frame building.

Perfect for the roads where I ride, in fact the roads everywhere at the moment.


Crasher242

243 posts

73 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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pastrana72 said:
Titanium is a fantastic material for a frame if it has been put together properly.

I love the Cove Hummer, the one I rode was made by litespeed in the USA, was fantastic.

Moots are another great company to look, as their titanium frames are one of the best I have seen.

I ride steel now as I prefer the ride,

I was looking at the new Gravel Bike that Curtis Bikes in Somerset have just launched, 853 steel and an absolute masterpiece in frame building.

Perfect for the roads where I ride, in fact the roads everywhere at the moment.

Now that is a thing of beauty cloud9

bobbo89

5,485 posts

151 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Indeed. Lovely looking thing that!