Electric bikes - how to check if they're legal?

Electric bikes - how to check if they're legal?

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Original Poster:

41,578 posts

202 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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This is a long shot but, given the breadth and depth of knowledge on PH, i thought i'd ask.

We have recently moved into some new offices in London which have a Bike Store. The Landlord has said that, to avoid the risk of fire the bikes have to comply with the following rules

Not have a motor exceeding 250 Watts.
Not have power assistance exceeding 15.5mph
Not have a throttle: must be propelled by pedals
The bikes need to comply with EN 15194:2017.

This is probably a very stupid question but is there an easy way for a normal person (ie not an E-Bike specialist) to check the above?

I'm genuinely wondering how they would be able to prove that we are non-compliant? confused


Mont Blanc

1,199 posts

49 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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I fully understand why they are worried about the risk of fire, and want to make sure the bikes are 'proper' factory built ones of good quality and reputable brand. Not something that has been built at home with a Chinese conversion kit and shoddy wiring.

But I can see the issue: How would they check?

I guess they could look for an EN sticker, but not all factory built bikes will have this. Pointless checking for the sticker anyway as you can buy fake EN stickers for a couple of quid off Ebay.



Edited by Mont Blanc on Sunday 1st October 18:43

gangzoom

6,672 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Motor size or throttles have no impact on fire risk. Its the quality of the battery pack and BMS. I guess the only real way if you only allow 'branded' eBikes, but that's pretty hard to enforce depending on define a 'brand', and will exclude anyone with conversion kits etc - which might help with fire risk mitigation?

the tribester

2,559 posts

92 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Countdown said:
This is a long shot but, given the breadth and depth of knowledge on PH, i thought i'd ask.

We have recently moved into some new offices in London which have a Bike Store. The Landlord has said that, to avoid the risk of fire the bikes have to comply with the following rules

Not have a motor exceeding 250 Watts.
Not have power assistance exceeding 15.5mph
Not have a throttle: must be propelled by pedals
The bikes need to comply with EN 15194:2017.

This is probably a very stupid question but is there an easy way for a normal person (ie not an E-Bike specialist) to check the above?

I'm genuinely wondering how they would be able to prove that we are non-compliant? confused
Pretty impossible, especially when parked in a bike store.

Many premium brand e-bikes have been de-restricted, but it will not be obvious, the small wired-in chip hidden behind an engine cover. Being de-restricted doesn't make a quality ebike more prone to fire, and the de-restriction is easily switched off, and using a de-restricted ebike is legal when used on private land.

Many home assembled ebikes with poor quality components, especially batteries/BMS, will have the required stickers to make them look legal.

Older ebikes (pre 01/01/2016) were permitted to have throttles, will the landlord know the age of the bike?