Cyclist violently assaulted after crashing into girl, 3
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Cockaigne said:
Sounds like the cyclist was assaulted to me. Punching people isn't on.Impossible to take a stance with that scant information.
Cyclist was blasting through a red light down in the drops looking to the apex of the next corner whilst he got into the highest gear: probably deserves a punch for hitting a kid whilst riding like a TdF wannabe.
Or the 3 year old wandered out like they do with little situational awareness, and he had nowhere to go. Then he didn't deserve a punch.
Cyclist was blasting through a red light down in the drops looking to the apex of the next corner whilst he got into the highest gear: probably deserves a punch for hitting a kid whilst riding like a TdF wannabe.
Or the 3 year old wandered out like they do with little situational awareness, and he had nowhere to go. Then he didn't deserve a punch.
Cockaigne said:
BoRED S2upid said:
That doesn’t give much info?
Cyclist hit 3 year old child on a zebra crossing, got punched. What more information do you need?or
Did he plough into her while she was in the middle of the crossing?
What speed was he doing?
What direction did he come from
Did he have her in his line of sight?
Do you have any of that info right now?
Cockaigne said:
BoRED S2upid said:
That doesn’t give much info?
Cyclist hit 3 year old child on a zebra crossing, got punched. What more information do you need?
ked off straight afterwards.Castrol for a knave said:
Cockaigne said:
BoRED S2upid said:
That doesn’t give much info?
Cyclist hit 3 year old child on a zebra crossing, got punched. What more information do you need?or
Did he plough into her while she was in the middle of the crossing?
What speed was he doing?
What direction did he come from
Did he have her in his line of sight?
Do you have any of that info right now?
She could have lept out from behind a parked car for all we know and is lucky it was a bike and not a car.
My thoughts as a cyclist are that I obey zebra crossings, that other cyclists who don't probably deserve a punch in the gob, particularly if they hit someone in the process, and that what people deserve and what it is acceptable for members of the public to dish out are two entirely different things.
E63eeeeee... said:
I blame the parents.
I actually do, in this case. If you're walking round the streets with a 3 year old it is literally your main job to stop them getting hit by traffic. Kids are unpredictable, vehicles can be dangerous, you're the fking adult in this situation. Own it.
This. Speak to Mrs BF about it in anything other than the complete affirmative and the shrift will be very short.I actually do, in this case. If you're walking round the streets with a 3 year old it is literally your main job to stop them getting hit by traffic. Kids are unpredictable, vehicles can be dangerous, you're the f
king adult in this situation. Own it. CheesecakeRunner said:
Riding though a zebra crossing when people are on it isn’t acceptable.
Punching people resulting in breaking their jaw isn’t acceptable.
Two wrongs etc…
Precisely this. Anyone advocating that assault is a legitimate way to react to seeing something like this should be willing to sign a waiver saying that they're happy to be assaulted by some random violent stranger looking for an excuse to behave violently if they ever slip up themselves.Punching people resulting in breaking their jaw isn’t acceptable.
Two wrongs etc…
No-one should be driving/riding over a zebra crossing (or a PeLiCon crossing for that matter, even if the lights go green) while any part of any pedestrian using that crossing remains on it. But drivers and cyclists often start to roll as soon as their side of the crossing is clear. It's wrong, but is justified by the "if I remain stopped, another pedestrian will begin to cross and then nobody will get anywhere" defence. Especially in larger, busier urban centres.
As far as this particular incident is concerned? As others have said it could range from an accident where the cyclist had no time to brake or avoid a child dashing into the road, to deliberate inconsiderate, reckless, or even dangerous cycling knowing there were pedestrians crossing. The linked article is insufficiently detailed to determine context. But neither option should result in an assault, and if the thug who did the punching is caught, the accident should in no way be acceptable to use as mitigation. Violent people use violence, and it's not (or shouldn't be) regarded as acceptable in a so-called civilised society to wander up to someone caught up in an incident that doesn't involve you, and simply punch them in the face. Anyone who thinks that sort of behaviour is in any way acceptable should, as I said before, be told to "suck it up" if they are ever assaulted.
Cockaigne said:
I'm sure you meant fellow road users. I see you're new here. Most people in this forum also have cars, motorbikes etc, it's just a low carbon form of transport & sporting activity.I cannot comment further as others have said, apart from what were the parents doing? Surely if they were in charge of the child, they would have been struck as well?
Edited by bigdom on Monday 5th June 16:44
It's perfectly possible to deplore a cyclist running a Zebra crossing AND some vigilante knobhead taking the law into their own hands. Why do situations like this have to be binary positions? Are people so unable to hold competing thoughts?
And blaming parents is nonsense. Any child can get away momentarlly from a parent, 99% of the time it's fine, once in a while someone comes unstuck. It's a load of bks to blithely point the finger entirely without context.
And blaming parents is nonsense. Any child can get away momentarlly from a parent, 99% of the time it's fine, once in a while someone comes unstuck. It's a load of b
ks to blithely point the finger entirely without context.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff