Ride quality - how to improve it?

Ride quality - how to improve it?

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272BHP

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5,607 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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My rides since the start of the year have often been miserable due to the terrible quality of the roads around the Surrey area - If you live around here you will know what I mean.

I have upgraded from 32 tubes to 35 tubeless and have carbon fibre seat post and front fork, have upgraded my saddle and I am still shaken to bits and have known danger on pretty much every single journey. I don't know how you roadies handle the craters with your high pressure slick tyres.

I know why there are so many 4x4s on the road now, it is to handle the lunar like surfaces of the roads. I now find myself looking at mountain bikes to replace my commuter laugh

defblade

7,579 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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CF seat post probably won't do much, have you looked at a suspension one?

272BHP

Original Poster:

5,607 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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defblade said:
CF seat post probably won't do much, have you looked at a suspension one?
To be honest it is more the hands that take the brunt of a pothole. Maybe I need to go a couple more widths up with my tyres.

PastelNata

4,418 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Gravel bike.

My Specialized gravel bike has adjustable front suspension in the headset and 42mm tubeless that I run at around 35psi.

Result: comfortable off-road on bridleways and bad roads aren’t a problem.


JEA1K

2,544 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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272BHP said:
My rides since the start of the year have often been miserable due to the terrible quality of the roads around the Surrey area - If you live around here you will know what I mean.

I have upgraded from 32 tubes to 35 tubeless and have carbon fibre seat post and front fork, have upgraded my saddle and I am still shaken to bits and have known danger on pretty much every single journey. I don't know how you roadies handle the craters with your high pressure slick tyres.

I know why there are so many 4x4s on the road now, it is to handle the lunar like surfaces of the roads. I now find myself looking at mountain bikes to replace my commuter laugh
What tyre pressures are you running?

PomBstard

7,040 posts

248 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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JEA1K said:
272BHP said:
My rides since the start of the year have often been miserable due to the terrible quality of the roads around the Surrey area - If you live around here you will know what I mean.

I have upgraded from 32 tubes to 35 tubeless and have carbon fibre seat post and front fork, have upgraded my saddle and I am still shaken to bits and have known danger on pretty much every single journey. I don't know how you roadies handle the craters with your high pressure slick tyres.

I know why there are so many 4x4s on the road now, it is to handle the lunar like surfaces of the roads. I now find myself looking at mountain bikes to replace my commuter laugh
What tyre pressures are you running?
^ My first thought too

Also check padding on gloves, and design of grips/padded bar tape. And if it feels uncomfortable on your hands check the relative height of your saddle to bars - maybe putting too much weight forward?

Could also try a different saddle and/or padded shorts.


lufbramatt

5,419 posts

140 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Stand up on the pedals over rough surfaces, steer round holes where safe to do so and unweight/bunnyhop the bike over unavoidable ones. Keep arms and grip loose to stop the vibration being transmitted back to your body.

If that fails just get a full suspension MTB smile

Camoradi

4,360 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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In Gloucestershire where I do most of my riding I'm sure there are communities of lost cyclists living in some of the potholes.

I find it's not the potholes that are the issue as a pothole in an otherwise good surface can be ridden around. It's the road surfaces with large stone poorly embedded into the surface. My tactic is to avoid these roads wherever possible, even if it means riding extra miles to do so.

Double wrap your bars with decent handlebar tape? It won't make a massive difference but every little helps.

budgie smuggler

5,500 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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PastelNata said:
Gravel bike.

My Specialized gravel bike has adjustable front suspension in the headset and 42mm tubeless that I run at around 35psi.

Result: comfortable off-road on bridleways and bad roads aren’t a problem.

Very nice bike, how does the suspension work, can't see anything under the head tube like the (old style) cannondale headshok..?

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

141 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Mostly pressures. If you're getting shaken up on 35's something is very wrong.

28s at 70/60 are pretty comfy for me (I'm on the hefty side). Your front can be a chunk lower than the rear because there's less weight on it. Also realise that the comfort in larger tyres comes from the ability to run lower pressures. A 35 at 60psi will be LESS comfortable than a 28 at 60psi.

Double wrap of bartape helps mine for hand comfort - that only runs to the hoods.

Also one of the best things I've bought is a *specific* seatpost - the canyon S13 vcls post (my bike is not a canyon) I didn't want a clonky big/heavy suspension post. I did want some give. I was skepical at the cost, but really rate it after a year plus - there's a surprising amount of compliance.

Last of all, remember you can go around the holes / think about where you ride relative to the gutter/worst parts of the road..

TwistingMyMelon

6,390 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Double wrap bar tape and padded mitts?

272BHP

Original Poster:

5,607 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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My tyre pressures usually sit about 45-50. Maybe I need to move up to 42s.

It is not the pot holes as such but the bad surface around them, you can avoid one but not the other

AC43

11,891 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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I've no idea what kind of bike you're talking about but my solution, when I was commuting across London frequently, was to start with a Boardman 8.9 hybrid. It came with carbon forks which take a lot of the chatter away. It also came with a gel saddle but if it hadn't I'd have added one as I always did to previous bikes.

The one thing I did add was a set of add nice fat Ergon grips. They make quite a difference. A seatpost with suspension would do more again; my wife has one of those on her hybrid but mine is comfortable enough for me now.

I can't remember what tyres it's on but they're not ridiculously skinny and so also soak up a fair amount of vibration.





z4RRSchris

11,466 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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you should prob start with not riding into potholes. round them or hop them

PastelNata

4,418 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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budgie smuggler said:
Very nice bike, how does the suspension work, can't see anything under the head tube like the (old style) cannondale headshok..?
It's the Diverge so the suspension is like this:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/future-shock

It removes most of the vibration through the handlebars making the bike ideal for bridleways etc.


MrBarry123

6,037 posts

127 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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I’m surprised you’re having an issue at those pressures OP.

I find both my winter (little bit stiff) and summer (stiff) bikes on 32mm tyres (65/60PSI F/R) are comfortable with the roads here (West Berkshire) and I can’t imagine they’re too dissimilar from the roads near you.

Because of how stiff everything in the roadie world is made nowadays, you’ll struggle to gain any compliance with carbon parts.

Could you be loading your hands too much when riding?

Barchettaman

6,466 posts

138 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Redshift ShockStop suspension stem?

Cane Creek thudbuster seat post, maybe?

Neither will win you any style points but hey, your options are limited on a non-sus bike.

Evanivitch

21,594 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Barchettaman said:
Redshift ShockStop suspension stem?

Cane Creek thudbuster seat post, maybe?

Neither will win you any style points but hey, your options are limited on a non-sus bike.
Came to suggest the redshift, well regarded in gravel riding.

272BHP

Original Poster:

5,607 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Barchettaman said:
Redshift ShockStop suspension stem?
Oh that looks interesting!

thanks

stargazer30

1,636 posts

172 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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272BHP said:
Barchettaman said:
Redshift ShockStop suspension stem?
Oh that looks interesting!

thanks
I'd have one in a heart beat if I could get a 17-20d rise one. I use their suspension seat post, its very good.