What bike?! Lightweight winter road bike quiver killer

What bike?! Lightweight winter road bike quiver killer

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pixelmix

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206 posts

114 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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I've got a lovely 8 year old Canyon CF SLX frameset with bits I put on it to my spec (nothing fancy: Ultegra 10spd drivetrain, Hope hubs) which has been great. I also have a heavy single speed Genesis Day One Trigger's Broom (it's not even the original colour now and virtually no original parts) which I used when I commuted more regularly in a previous job.

The Genesis is slow and heavy to ride, but it does have mudguards. As I no longer race, I don't need such a focussed road bike anymore and if I was starting from scratch, I'd now combine the two into a lightweight endurance bike that can take guards.

Essentially, whenever I ride the Genesis I wish I was on the Canyon, but whenever I end up commuting on damp roads, I wish I wasn't getting so wet! I now only commute once a week or so (35mi round trip, so just under an hour each way).

I'm tempted to look at something new on bike to work. Spec would be:
- Carbon or Ti frame (for weight)
- Shimano groupset ideally (not Di2)
- Can take guards fairly easily (left on for 6 months of the year probably)
- 25-28mm tyres (I don't need room for massive tyres as I have a gravel bike, so I want this one to roll quickly)
- Disc brakes (saves wearing out rims on muddy back roads)
- Similar geometry to the Canyon CF SLX

Budget could be £3k or so as I'll do it on cycle to work.

Ideas welcome!

BoRED S2upid

20,175 posts

246 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Well the answer is of course Mason. Doubt you can use cycle to work though.

Fancy set of gravel wheels for the Canyon and some clip on guards.

Catastrophic Poo

5,041 posts

192 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
Well the answer is of course Mason. Doubt you can use cycle to work though. .
Oh yes you can biggrinwink

BoRED S2upid

20,175 posts

246 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Catastrophic Poo said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Well the answer is of course Mason. Doubt you can use cycle to work though. .
Oh yes you can biggrinwink
Seriously?

End thread then me and the OP are off to the Mason cycles website to create bike porn!

markcp

230 posts

249 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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I've got a Mason Definition so was going to suggest that too. I've had a few quality issues, but so far the back-up service has been great. I hate to admit it, but I probably prefer riding it over my best bike (Parlee Z0)...

pixelmix

Original Poster:

206 posts

114 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Shortly after typing this, I did wonder about a set of wheels and guards for the disc equipped gravel bike (it is a nice Carbon Bianchi) so I could keep the Canyon for fast road stuff, and the Bianchi would be fast enough with 28mm tyres for rainy days.

What is the weight like on Mason? I've owned a good few Kinesis bikes over the years and I've always liked the idea of what Dom has done with Mason but I thought they might be a bit heavy for a nice fast road bike?

BoRED S2upid

20,175 posts

246 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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pixelmix said:
Shortly after typing this, I did wonder about a set of wheels and guards for the disc equipped gravel bike (it is a nice Carbon Bianchi) so I could keep the Canyon for fast road stuff, and the Bianchi would be fast enough with 28mm tyres for rainy days.

What is the weight like on Mason? I've owned a good few Kinesis bikes over the years and I've always liked the idea of what Dom has done with Mason but I thought they might be a bit heavy for a nice fast road bike?
Depends which model and material. They are up there with the best. Road, gravel, touring, alloy, titanium, carbon etc… I’ve spent days on that website

CheesecakeRunner

4,320 posts

97 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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pixelmix said:
I'm tempted to look at something new on bike to work. Spec would be:
- Carbon or Ti frame (for weight)
- Shimano groupset ideally (not Di2)
- Can take guards fairly easily (left on for 6 months of the year probably)
- 25-28mm tyres (I don't need room for massive tyres as I have a gravel bike, so I want this one to roll quickly)
- Disc brakes (saves wearing out rims on muddy back roads)
- Similar geometry to the Canyon CF SLX

Budget could be £3k or so as I'll do it on cycle to work.

Ideas welcome!
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-endurance-ti...

£2600

mooseracer

2,048 posts

176 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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markcp said:
I've got a Mason Definition so was going to suggest that too. I've had a few quality issues, but so far the back-up service has been great. I hate to admit it, but I probably prefer riding it over my best bike (Parlee Z0)...
4 (I think) years now on my Definition 2. Bloody brilliant bike!

I would also suggest a think about a Fairlight Strael.

sociopath

3,433 posts

72 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
pixelmix said:
I'm tempted to look at something new on bike to work. Spec would be:
- Carbon or Ti frame (for weight)
- Shimano groupset ideally (not Di2)
- Can take guards fairly easily (left on for 6 months of the year probably)
- 25-28mm tyres (I don't need room for massive tyres as I have a gravel bike, so I want this one to roll quickly)
- Disc brakes (saves wearing out rims on muddy back roads)
- Similar geometry to the Canyon CF SLX

Budget could be £3k or so as I'll do it on cycle to work.

Ideas welcome!
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-endurance-ti...

£2600
If the OP orders now, he might even get it in time for winter (winter 2024 most likely)

Great bikes but the OP should check out the reviews regarding delivery timescales and customer service

CheesecakeRunner

4,320 posts

97 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Ribble’s lead times are vastly improved now. Depending on size, they could have this by the end of next week, or otherwise a four week wait.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-ti-105-d...

Edited by CheesecakeRunner on Sunday 23 April 11:09

IroningMan

10,245 posts

252 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Mason bikes are very nice, but I answered more or less the same question as the OP with a Cervelo Caledonia:

Summer


Winter


15 months ago it was just over £3k with 11spd Ultegra mechanical - but now Di2-only and £5,499… I guess with Mason you can still specify mechanical shifting, or do your own build.

Laverack should also be worth a look, but could be pricey.

Dannbodge

2,196 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Recently bought this.

Ribble Endurance SL Disc
Ultegra Hydro Discs
VEL 3850 wheels
28mm Conti 4 seasons
PDW mudguards

Geometry is similar to my Tarmac SL6 but it's anything but light. Weighs about 8.5/9kg as seen here.

CheesecakeRunner

4,320 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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That’s not a shy paint scheme! Awesome!

Dannbodge

2,196 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
That’s not a shy paint scheme! Awesome!
Yeah it wasn't specced by me originally as I bought this second hand,

It's actually alright in the flesh, its a nice shade of green and red, just not sure they go together!

For a winter bike it'll do though.

pixelmix

Original Poster:

206 posts

114 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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Some great looking bikes there. smile I can see me losing a few days tinkering on the iPad here.

Sadly my version of the Biancho Impuslo Pro doesn’t take guards, but I’m currently wondering about Quickguards for the gravel bike (and a set of road wheels) as a stop gap before the shiny new all rounder road bike. Possibly keep the Canyon Ultimate CF SLX going for another year or two.

Any experience of Quick Guards? Flappy, creaky things or okay? The revised version seems to get reasonable reviews.


sociopath

3,433 posts

72 months

Thursday 27th April 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Ribble’s lead times are vastly improved now. Depending on size, they could have this by the end of next week, or otherwise a four week wait.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-ti-105-d...

Edited by CheesecakeRunner on Sunday 23 April 11:09
Not according to most of the people posting on line.
Only this week a guy had his delivery delayed the day before it was due.

I've been trying to buy a CGR Al e and the online builder dates randomly jump between July 2023 and 2025 depending on random stuff like the tyres or groupset changing,

Catastrophic Poo

5,041 posts

192 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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sociopath said:
CheesecakeRunner said:
Ribble’s lead times are vastly improved now. Depending on size, they could have this by the end of next week, or otherwise a four week wait.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-ti-105-d...

Edited by CheesecakeRunner on Sunday 23 April 11:09
Not according to most of the people posting on line.
Only this week a guy had his delivery delayed the day before it was due.

I've been trying to buy a CGR Al e and the online builder dates randomly jump between July 2023 and 2025 depending on random stuff like the tyres or groupset changing,
They lost a sale from me not that long ago because of the noise about dates bouncing around, or not delivering because of a relatively minor component being out of stock and not being willing to substitute.

PastelNata

4,418 posts

206 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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pixelmix said:
Some great looking bikes there. smile I can see me losing a few days tinkering on the iPad here.

Sadly my version of the Biancho Impuslo Pro doesn’t take guards, but I’m currently wondering about Quickguards for the gravel bike (and a set of road wheels) as a stop gap before the shiny new all rounder road bike. Possibly keep the Canyon Ultimate CF SLX going for another year or two.

Any experience of Quick Guards? Flappy, creaky things or okay? The revised version seems to get reasonable reviews.
I've got SKS Speedrockers on my Diverge gravel bike; they do the job well enough.

The Diverge can actually take fixed mudguards and I have a set but the SKS were just so easy to put on.

Given how many wet road days we get though I'm going to swop the SKS's onto my older road bike, Wilier Zero6. Even with mudguards etc it'll still come in at sub 7kg!

On the subject of putting road wheels on the gravel bike though, I did this recently, put my Zipp 404's on to see how it would be and does make a noticeable difference in road speed. But once the Wilier is set up for wet weather I'll probably not put the Zipp's on the gravel bike again.


IroningMan

10,245 posts

252 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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pixelmix said:
Some great looking bikes there. smile I can see me losing a few days tinkering on the iPad here.

Sadly my version of the Biancho Impuslo Pro doesn’t take guards, but I’m currently wondering about Quickguards for the gravel bike (and a set of road wheels) as a stop gap before the shiny new all rounder road bike. Possibly keep the Canyon Ultimate CF SLX going for another year or two.

Any experience of Quick Guards? Flappy, creaky things or okay? The revised version seems to get reasonable reviews.
I think they're reasonably stable, but it depends if you're generally riding alone on in a group - short clip-ons are not much help to anyone behind you.