Tyre Recommendation - Cannondale SuperSix EVO Carbon Disc U

Tyre Recommendation - Cannondale SuperSix EVO Carbon Disc U

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NSNO

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387 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Hi all, the tyres on my bike are starting to show signs of cracks in the sidewalls and so will need to replace them imminently. It is currently running on the standard tyres that came with the bike, which are Vittoria Rubino Pro Bright Black, 700x25c. As the bike is setup for tubeless tyres and reading some of the benefits offered, I'm thinking of going tubeless, although it seems like there are a fair amount of people who aren't sold on them versus the traditional clincher tyres. Has anyone made this switch previously and what are your thoughts and recommendations for a tyre. Also I'm thinking of going for a wider tyre of say 28. Does anyone know if these would still fit my bike. For reference I currently have my tyres set to 6.9 bar (100 psi) and weigh around 73kg.

Master Bean

3,950 posts

126 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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What wheels have you got? Is your bike a 2020 onwards model? Do you do maintenance at home or take it to a bike shop?

sociopath

3,433 posts

72 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Mine came with tubeless. After too many failures I went back to tubes. It can be a pain getting clinchers on if they're not suited to your wheels (I won't be buying gp5000s again), but they've never left me stranded, unlike tubeless.

Each to their own of course

CheesecakeRunner

4,320 posts

97 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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What kind of road surface are you riding on? Decent tarmac, Continental GP5000 are well worth a look. Available in tubeless and clincher.

NSNO

Original Poster:

387 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Master Bean said:
What wheels have you got? Is your bike a 2020 onwards model? Do you do maintenance at home or take it to a bike shop?
HollowGram Si, Carbon Clincher Disc, 19mm inner, 35mm deep, tubeless ready and yes I get my maintenance done by a bike shop/mobile mechanic so would get them to fit the tyres.

NSNO

Original Poster:

387 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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sociopath said:
Mine came with tubeless. After too many failures I went back to tubes. It can be a pain getting clinchers on if they're not suited to your wheels (I won't be buying gp5000s again), but they've never left me stranded, unlike tubeless.

Each to their own of course
I've read of a few people going back to tubes and not thinking tubeless is worth it on a road bike.

NSNO

Original Poster:

387 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
What kind of road surface are you riding on? Decent tarmac, Continental GP5000 are well worth a look. Available in tubeless and clincher.
It is a mixture really of all surfaces including tarmac, cobbled, dirt road occasionally and I ride all year around, so obviously more debris around in the winter that can causes punctures.

Do you have these yourself and if so what size do you have them in?

CheesecakeRunner

4,320 posts

97 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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I run 30c GP5000 clincher in the summer on fairly normal UK A and B roads and the 32c Grand Prix 4 Seasons in the winter. But I have a disc frame with loads of clearance now. Previously ran 28c of both on a rim brake frame and it was fine but less comfortable. I’m 115kg and run 85/80psi front/rear in the 30c tyres.

Can’t be arsed with tubeless on a road bike.

Edited by CheesecakeRunner on Tuesday 14th March 16:37

Harpoon

1,942 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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NSNO

Original Poster:

387 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Harpoon said:
Cheers, seems to be a bit of a marmite subject.

Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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NSNO said:
sociopath said:
Mine came with tubeless. After too many failures I went back to tubes. It can be a pain getting clinchers on if they're not suited to your wheels (I won't be buying gp5000s again), but they've never left me stranded, unlike tubeless.

Each to their own of course
I've read of a few people going back to tubes and not thinking tubeless is worth it on a road bike.
Cross posted from another thread - my journey with Tubeless on a road bike.

I've been running tubeless for 4 years on my gravel bike (2x WTB tyres/1x Ultradynamico on 3 different wheel sets but all Mavic rims) - zero issues, perfect solution, they do lose pressure though - they are 45, 47 & 47.99(!)mm tyres respectively - I run them at 30 to 45 psi dependant on use, and they will lose 10-20% per week.

I got a new road bike last summer, specced Enve 4.5 Wheelset and the LBS built it with the ENVE SES 29mm tyres - tubeless. After about 3,000km and honestly, the jury is out, but the more I ride it, the more I love it - it's also great for ultra long rides as gives an extra layer of protection. Compared to my other road bikes (with normal clinchers/tubes) it is definitely more comfy, but that's probably partly the frame (custom steel Vs carbon). I'm running them at c60-70psi which is above where they should be, they seem to 'float' below that. I've only had one puncture that I knew about and it needed a plug to fix the hole which worked seamlessly (although I do carry a tube as well) - when I replaced the tyre, it looks like there were 4 or 5 other minor punctures that had been sealed without me even realising.

If I only used the bike for sub-100km rides, I'd perhaps be tempted to stick with/revert to tubes, but this bike is to tackle long rides where the tubeless benefits should be greater. See how I feel after the summer, the Mallorca 312 and a couple of multi-day overseas bike trips.


UPDATE:

I've just come back from a week riding abroad - same road bike, same tubeless tyres.

There were a 11 of us for most of the trip, riding 100-150km & 1500-3000m climbing per day, 7 TL, 4 tubes. My TL tyres were superb, previous doubts fully eradicated. The feel, comfort and performance are now spot on - lifting from 60 to 70psi seems the sweet spot. I had no punctures, there were 7 riders that punctured at one point. Two were on TL, 5 on tubes (one guy had three punctures alone).

One TL puncture causes us to stop for around 30 secs as he pulled a twig with thorn out of his tyre and spin the tyre to seal it. The other we didn't even realise until someone spotted a bit of sealant on his seat post.

The 5 tubes took from 5 to 15mins per wheel to change, the longest needing two tubes.


Safe to say, my conversion to TL is complete.

Camoradi

4,360 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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I'd recommend Conti GP5000 STR. Just ordered my second set and will continue to use them as long as they are available


Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Camoradi said:
I'd recommend Conti GP5000 STR. Just ordered my second set and will continue to use them as long as they are available
GP5000s are probably the best all round road tyre on the market. I switched to Vitoria Corsa Speeds on my Dogma when the ltd ed. GP5000 tan wall tyres stopped production. I actually prefer them all round, just can't help the niggling puncture fragility fear.

nammynake

2,606 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Schwalbe One or Pro One (tube type) are a good and cheaper alternative to GP5000s. Tubeless isnt worth the hassle for road riding. When they work they’re great, but when they fail it can be ride ending.

boyse7en

7,035 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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nother vote here for sticking with tubes. I do a 50-ish mile ride most saturdays with a group and twice in the last year or so we have had to call home for rescue after a tubeless tyre has failed to re-seal. We have had several tube punctures, but they only stop us for the 10 mins or so it takes to swap a new one in.
Continental GP5000 clinchers on both my bikes (winter and summer) and i find them very good. Much better than the Specialised tyres that came on the bike