Dogs attack cyclist…

[Fastra]

I'm sure this must have already been posted, but a search didn't reveal anything.

So, 2 videos - the initial attack and a follow up.

I'm not sure what I'd have done really, but he seems to have handled it brilliantly.
Also wondering that with the Clio in the background if he's on here too???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFNVdt-hrM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNnpDhpH-U

[Kes Arevo]

One of your worst nightmares when cycling. We have sheepdogs here, and street dogs out in t e sticks that will chase you, but they are pretty much all st scared of you when you shout, or get off.

These people should be prosecuted. They clearly knew there was an issue with their aggression from the off, so why on earth have them off the lead?

[bmwmike]

Exactly my fear when MTBing and precisely why I wear steel toe cap DeWalt work boots and padded trousers. It also may or may not be useful to equip ones back pack with additional "tools" for emergency use.

Those owners / handlers should be prosecuted. Fair do's to the guy, he seemed to be pretty calm about it. Sub'd his channel.

Edited by bmwmike on Thursday 2nd March 12:00

[Roger Irrelevant]

Kes Arevo said:

One of your worst nightmares when cycling.

Or running - I've been bitten a few times by dogs off their leads when out and about in the woods round here (but I've never had a problem with farm dogs - like you say they'll make a racket but that's all as they're invariably very well trained). Never the owners fault of course - it's mine for running on a public footpath - how silly of me.

[PDP76]

Had this happen to me last summer, only one dog. The owner couldn’t so much and kept saying he doesn’t like bikes !!! Wtf then don’t walk the damn thing off the lead in an area people are definitely going to be on bikes.

Kept the bike frame between us and its lunges. Seemed to calm then when I tried to leave it had another go, this time it caught a kick which deterred it some and I could ride off.

Wouldn’t want to be faced with more than one and pack mentality.

[Geoffcapes]

Kes Arevo said:

One of your worst nightmares when cycling. We have sheepdogs here, and street dogs out in t e sticks that will chase you, but they are pretty much all st scared of you when you shout, or get off.

These people should be prosecuted. They clearly knew there was an issue with their aggression from the off, so why on earth have them off the lead?

Why do dogs always chase you on uphill stretches? It's like they know it'll be harder to escape!

[Kes Arevo]

Geoffcapes said:

Why do dogs always chase you on uphill stretches? It's like they know it'll be harder to escape!

Cats give them tactical advice.

[Tom8]

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

[carinaman]

When I am cycling home I sometimes encounter a couple walking a fully grown Alsatian. It's one of those longer haired fluffy looking ones. They stand still on the opposite side of the lane and keep the dog restrained tightly as I pass. It's nice to know the dog may be more inquisitive and interested in the bike than me. Hopefully it'll be less of an issue as the evenings get lighter.

[Silvanus]

Tom8 said:

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

I've heard dog licences mentioned in other threads, what exactly would a dog licence do to stop attacks?

[bmwmike]

Silvanus said:

I've heard dog licences mentioned in other threads, what exactly would a dog licence do to stop attacks?

The guy in the video could have asked for the ID of the dogs, reported them, and then had them put down or the owners fined depending on whether they have a history etc.

But on the flipside i agree with your counter argument that the dog owners likely bought them off marketplace and are too thick to know they need to train them, wouldn't bother with licenses, there is no enforcement because this country is in the gutter, and the owners probably wouldn't hand over any ID anyway.

Hence, steel toe cap boots etc.

[Kes Arevo]

Thread moved to pedal power?

Why? It's not about cycling, it's about a dog attack.

[Tom8]

Silvanus said:

Tom8 said:

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

I've heard dog licences mentioned in other threads, what exactly would a dog licence do to stop attacks?

It would assert a level of responsibility on owners and open them to prosecution whereas now that is as likely as a lottery win. It can also be used to guide owners on their responsibility and seize unregistered dogs so reduce bad ones out there. Why do you have a driving license?

[Silvanus]

bmwmike said:

Silvanus said:

I've heard dog licences mentioned in other threads, what exactly would a dog licence do to stop attacks?

The guy in the video could have asked for the ID of the dogs, reported them, and then had them put down or the owners fined depending on whether they have a history etc.

But on the flipside i agree with your counter argument that the dog owners likely bought them off marketplace and are too thick to know they need to train them, wouldn't bother with licenses, there is no enforcement because this country is in the gutter, and the owners probably wouldn't hand over any ID anyway.

Hence, steel toe cap boots etc.

So other than a for of ID purposes, which the guy managed to get anyway, a licence would not have stopped the attack.

Not not against licensing, I'd happily licence my dog, just not sure how useful it would be in stopping an attack.

Not sure what the answer is on preventing dog attacks.

[RSstuff]

Tom8 said:

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

Well as a MTBiker myself, I'd say there's just as many entitled cyclists as entitled dog owners. Or is it society in general that is becoming entitled.

[Tom8]

RSstuff said:

Tom8 said:

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

Well as a MTBiker myself, I'd say there's just as many entitled cyclists as entitled dog owners. Or is it society in general that is becoming entitled.

I agree, I am neither but frequently suffer the entitlement of both.

[President Merkin]

RSstuff said:

Well as a MTBiker myself, I'd say there's just as many entitled cyclists as entitled dog owners. Or is it society in general that is becoming entitled.

I'm yet to see an MTB rider chase a dog for the fun of it.

This is a constant problem for me, I'd say I'm chased by aggressive dogs about once a fortnight on average. Twice in one ride last month, the second one got a boot in the arse at which point the owner piped up. Not before though, the entitled tt.

[mikecassie]

RSstuff said:

Tom8 said:

Dog owners are becoming one of the biggest nuisances in society. Their entitlement is unbelievable whether around bikes as in here or around livestock or just in the general public where dogs attacking other dogs seems common these days.

Would dog licensing and related offences be a way forward as the law currently seems pretty useless on all counts.

Well as a MTBiker myself, I'd say there's just as many entitled cyclists as entitled dog owners. Or is it society in general that is becoming entitled.

I would agree it's the latter, although I don't do MTB'ing I delay nice honest road users instead... I do actually try not to delay anyone and if it's safe for me, I'll pull off the road to allow motorists to get past me.
Licensing dog owners would have no reduction in attacks to livestock or general poor behaviour. From what I see it's the people who own the dogs that's the issue, but the dog pays the price, especially when Farmer Giles brings out the 12 bore...

[Master Bean]

Ban dogs.

[JEA1K]

RSstuff said:

Well as a MTBiker myself, I'd say there's just as many entitled cyclists as entitled dog owners. Or is it society in general that is becoming entitled.

Nail on head.