Clippy pedals

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Damp Logs

Original Poster:

796 posts

140 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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I’m really a novice, and fairly inexperienced, but I have just fitted clippy pedals and got proper cycling shoes. Managed to ride without falling off, although still not 100% confident.

However, my legs don’t feel as comfortable as previously - don’t feel able to lock my knees.

Is this something I will get used to? Or do I need to raise my saddle to compensate for the slight difference?

TIA

Squadrone Rosso

2,867 posts

153 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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Get a bike fit. Not cheap but money very well spent.

Steve vRS

5,002 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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If you are new then a bike fit might be a bit too over the top. As a basic, your saddle should be at a height so that your knee is slightly bent when your foot is at the bottom of the pedal stroke.

okgo

39,140 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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What do you mean lock your knees?

Paul Drawmer

4,939 posts

273 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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okgo said:
What do you mean lock your knees?
I too wonder what the OP means by this.

Hard-Drive

4,127 posts

235 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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As a very, very rough guide, lean up against something sat on your bike. Put your pedal to bottom dead centre (crank pointing straight down vertically, flip your pedal over and with your heel (not ball) on the pedal axle, your leg should be pretty much dead straight but not "locked". Move your saddle up and down accordingly, and set it to dead level on flat ground (iPhone spirit level is a good guide).

If you've gone from squishy flat trainers to a proper cycling shoe there's every chance you need to raise your saddle by 5-10mm or more. Don't overdo it though, if your hips have to "rock" to allow your foot to get to the bottom of the stroke, you are too high.

Have you gone for road (SPD-SL) or MTB (SPD) cleats and shoes? Cleat position is vital, plenty stuff on YouTube about how to get it there or thereabouts. But I do agree a bike fit is important.

Damp Logs

Original Poster:

796 posts

140 months

Friday 10th February 2023
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Thanks for the replies - much appreciated.

All advice taken on board

Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Bike fit would be the answer, but agree that the £150 it would cost might not be worth it.

There are some good apps at c£5-10 that do a decent job.

A REALLY rough rule of thumb I use on a hotel static bike or similar: when your pedals are true horizontal, your forward knee should be directly over the pedal spindle.

LM240

4,818 posts

224 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Been on Look pedals since getting back on a road bike. I like them.

Can’t really go wrong with shimano pedals either.

After a couple of rides you should be used to clipping in and out. It’s only really remembering when coming to a stop!

Well worth making the switch to clipped in pedals.

A bit of research on the internet will give you guides to positioning of cleats in relation to your foot and bike fit in terms of saddle height and fore/aft positioning. I also bought a tool which you can put your cleat / shoe onto and helps line up the shoe.

oddball1313

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Put the cleats as far back towards the heel as they’ll go, tends to work for most as a place to start getting your fit right

Damp Logs

Original Poster:

796 posts

140 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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I took Oddballs advice and moved the cleats - wow!!!

Huge improvement in comfort

When I mentioned locking my knees, it was not so much when pedalling, but more when crank is at the bottom and I’m just coasting.

Bike fit will be investigated, but nearest looks like Cheshire/Manchester, unless anyone can recommend one in north Wales


Thanks again all

oddball1313

1,261 posts

129 months

Sunday 12th February 2023
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Glad the tip helped - there’s a ton of bad advice there but a really good place for sensible bike fit information is on the Francis Cade youtube channel (cade media is the new site address)

Bikefit Tuesday with his mate James from Bicycle Richmond is a genuinely excellant resource from someone who clearly knows his stuff

https://youtu.be/xum6W3pk59A

Lots more on saddles, bar width and everything else you need to know

Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Damp Logs said:
I took Oddballs advice and moved the cleats - wow!!!

Huge improvement in comfort

When I mentioned locking my knees, it was not so much when pedalling, but more when crank is at the bottom and I’m just coasting.

Bike fit will be investigated, but nearest looks like Cheshire/Manchester, unless anyone can recommend one in north Wales


Thanks again all
Matt Hallam from Crimson is definitely worth travelling for. He has a jig set up permanently in the ground floor of Rapha.

Onespeeder

63 posts

64 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I seem to remember Grahm Weigh in Shotton used to do bike fits. Website doesn't say he still does but it might be worth a phone call - he might recommend someone if they are not doing them. Further afield, Paul Hewitt in Leyland used to be highly regarded and may well still be but again a quick look on the website does not say that they do them now.

Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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There is also Rich Salisbury at Pedal Precision. He lives Cheshire, not sure where is work out of.

Also not sure he has a jig, which I would always say is a 'must have' for a first bike fit, personal preference perhaps.

speedking31

3,616 posts

142 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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The Trek shop near Wilmslow has a video room to carry out bike fit / posture checking.

https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/retail/wilmslow

z4RRSchris

11,467 posts

185 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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bike fits generally snake oil for beginner cyclists looking for comfort.

99% of the time they lower the saddle and move it back, move your bars up and towards you, sell you some expensive innersoles etc.

Ive had three fits as a "racer" everyone was different, and what i ride isnt like any of them.


Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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speedking31 said:
The Trek shop near Wilmslow has a video room to carry out bike fit / posture checking.

https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/retail/wilmslow
I wouldn't let those guys change a tyre, let alone give an accurate bike-fit.

Julian Scott

3,233 posts

30 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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z4RRSchris said:
bike fits generally snake oil for beginner cyclists looking for comfort.

99% of the time they lower the saddle and move it back, move your bars up and towards you, sell you some expensive innersoles etc.

Ive had three fits as a "racer" everyone was different, and what i ride isnt like any of them.
Have they been jig-based fits? If so, that's your inability to know what is comfortable. If not, that your fault for paying for a non-jig bike fit wink


Siao

1,006 posts

46 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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oddball1313 said:
Put the cleats as far back towards the heel as they’ll go, tends to work for most as a place to start getting your fit right
On my bikefitting session, they put the cleats level with the ball of my foot. Not sure how much help this is!