Carbon Seatpost Issue

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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troc

3,848 posts

181 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Try shimming it with a piece of aluminium drinks can.

The secret is that it all (post and inside the seat tube) needs to be clean and free of grease etc. Then apply a thin layer of grip paste. Too much will make it lubricate rather than grip.

JayRidesBikes

1,312 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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I've never had this issue, but I saw a post regarding some Factor Ostro owners having this issue, I read that a couple of them have been putting a piece of sandpaper around the sea tpost where it meets the wedge and apparently this is enough to properly 'fill' the gap and stop it slipping.

Chicken Chaser

8,097 posts

230 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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I think he means cutting a drinks can and sliding the Alu between post and frame.

Personally I'd just try grip paste. If it doesn't work, then I'd say there's something wrong with the tolerances on the frame to seatpost and it needs to go back.

JayRidesBikes

1,312 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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anonymous said:
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He means to put the shim between the seat post and the clamp, thus making the seat post slightly thicker which may resolve the slipping issue, similar to the sandpaper method I read about.

I have a TCR and a Tarmac with this type of seat post / clamp combo and have not had issues with either slipping when torqued correctly. I am wondering if this is a design flaw - have you googled the issue to see if anyone else with one of these bikes has bought it up? (Or checked the owners Facebook group if you're on there).

frisbee

5,112 posts

116 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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I've only got boring bikes with circular seat posts so don't know much about these types.

It's an expanding wedge? Does the bolt and sections of the wedge move freely without the seatpost in place? I guess you want to be careful where you get the paste as it could mess with the clamping force.

neilr

1,527 posts

269 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Why not use the LBS and see if they can sort it ? Why do you think its 'unethical' to ask them to fix a bike bought elsewhere? You're not asking them to do it for free are you. Or are their staff there as result of modern slavery? now that would be unethical.


Skyrocket21

777 posts

48 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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You need to take the wedge out, the sliding parts need to be cleaned and greased carefully, so the wedge can move, then put the grip paste around the contact areas between the frame and seatpost and outside of the wedge.





remove the middle part that moves out, grease the sliding surfaces,inside surface only, then refit and use the grip paste.

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

193 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Check you have not got any carbon paste on the wrong part of the seat wedge. (Would provent it from tightening up sufficiently when correct torque applied). Overall seat wedge clamps are less good than old fashioned external clamps imo.

JayRidesBikes

1,312 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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neilr said:
Why not use the LBS and see if they can sort it ? Why do you think its 'unethical' to ask them to fix a bike bought elsewhere? You're not asking them to do it for free are you. Or are their staff there as result of modern slavery? now that would be unethical.
I took my 2 month old giant tcr to a local bike shop to repair the freehub. They did the job, I paid and they wrote me up a short report of what the issue was and that they had to fit a new freehub. They told me to send this to the store I got the bike from to make a warranty claim with giant. I did this and got the £40 or so refunded within a week to two by the store I purchased the bike from.

Gweeds

7,954 posts

58 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Has the seatpost for a rough side to it (on purpose)? Take it out. Clean the paste off and only paste the smooth side. Don’t put anything on the rough side.

wobert

5,221 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Your last post says you sent the email to the Merida distributor, have you contacted Tredz from where you purchased the bike from?

Your contract of sale is with Tredz, not the UK distributor nor Merida themselves.

If the distributor has any sense they will point you back to the point of purchase.

If you have contacted Tredz, what have they suggested in terms of resolving the issue.

IMHO you would be better off returning the bike and requesting a replacement or a refund.

The risk is, if you or the LBS bugger about and damage the frame / seat post / clamp, they will use this a a wiggle out of the warranty.

The clamp works in the same way as any other wedge style clamp. As you tighten the bolt, the clamp expands due to the ramp profile.


OutInTheShed

8,788 posts

32 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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That looks like it's jamming between the two parts under the R on the upper part.
It looks like it wants the bolt slackening, rotate the lower part anticlockwise a bit so the two parts slide and the bolt is more parallel to the seat post axis.
The V-shaped gap at lower right should be parallel.

Maybe rotate the lower part, tighten the bolt a little so it has to be correct when it's in the tube?

Failing that, a small adjustment with a file ....


Beware or carbon/alloy corrosion, it can be fierce.

Gweeds

7,954 posts

58 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Btw. The advice I gave above was because I had a similar issue with my Colnago. Since doing it it’s been flawless.

wobert

5,221 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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anonymous said:
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Ah ok, your opening sentence says you sent it to the distributor as opposed to the dealer.

paralla

3,806 posts

141 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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I weigh 90kg and had the same design seat post clamp on a Merida Reacto 5000 I had for a couple of years (until it was stolen). I bought it through Tredz and they were great to deal with, they actually replaced the whole bike after one of the chainrings broke and ruined the frame. I never had any problems with the seat dropping.

Disassemble and clean everything, lube the bits that should slide, apply carbon grip paste to the bits that shouldn’t slide and torque it up. If that doesn’t work tell Tredz.

Piginapoke

4,953 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Just take it to the LBS. If they fix it, great. If not, return it.

gl20

1,136 posts

155 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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OP - I hope you get it sorted. I read this thread with some trepidation as coincidentally I just bought myself a Tarmac SL7 (actually in October but was waiting for drier weather before riding it) and had planned to do first test ride today to bed in brakes.

It has the same ‘wedge’ set up as your bike but I needed to swap out the seat post to a shorter one which I did on Friday evening and used gripper grease per instructions (my first carbon bike).

Read this thread last night (!), first ride today and it seems fine but was a short one.

Nothing more frustrating than the sort of thing you’ve experience so hope it’s fixed soon.

Gweeds

7,954 posts

58 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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That really blows. My guess is that either the post or seattube are well out of tolerance and no amount of paste will fix it.

OutInTheShed

8,788 posts

32 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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It does look designed to jam and fail.
But how hard can it be? two parts that work as a wedge, plus a drawbolt.

The newest bike I have, I bought slightly secondhand. I think the seatpost was slathered in some kind of grease normally associated with the word 'dockyard'. The post has worn so the clamp screw needs a fair bit of adjustment when lowering the seat for Mrs O'Shed.

A mate of mine bought a nice carbon frame with an utterly seized ali seatpost in it.
Removed by chemistry in the end.


I suspect a thin layer of insulting tape would pack the wedge in the tube, ensure the parts stay in alignment during assembly, and provide some grip.
(We bodge for Britain here!)