Cycle storage in an empty shop unit

Cycle storage in an empty shop unit

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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https://www.spokesafe.com/newport

Sick of bikes in Newport getting stolen, this guy found an old empty shop and turned it into a cycle storage place. Somewhere like this in Bristol would make a killing and I guess spokesafe deal with branding, the membership app etc

p4cks

7,006 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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What a good idea!

Caddyshack

11,402 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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I can’t see how you make any money with 40 spaces at £1 per day….£40 per day wouldn’t pay the rent?


Caddyshack

11,402 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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Wouldn’t a bike thief sign up with some fake I.d. And then know where all the expensive bikes are kept?

anonymous-user

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60 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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I think they are manned, not sure as the website isn’t great. Thus you can’t just go in with an angle grinder and help yourself….

I’d bet they get a fair few subscribers at £20 a month though and there probably aren’t that many £1 a day users who get a space if members can book in advance.

There’s a place on Skinner Street which is £6500 rent pa, if you did repairs, sold spares like lights, tubes etc and added a little coffee machine, you could easily make a living off that.

Caddyshack

11,402 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th November 2022
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pablo said:
I think they are manned, not sure as the website isn’t great. Thus you can’t just go in with an angle grinder and help yourself….

I’d bet they get a fair few subscribers at £20 a month though and there probably aren’t that many £1 a day users who get a space if members can book in advance.

There’s a place on Skinner Street which is £6500 rent pa, if you did repairs, sold spares like lights, tubes etc and added a little coffee machine, you could easily make a living off that.
Yes, maybe. It was the comment at the top about making a killing. Once you factor in insurance, tax, rates, etc and it says 24/7 access so assume a coded entry at times (looks like one on door), I don’t think one shop would ever make you any real big profit.

Siao

1,006 posts

46 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Caddyshack said:
pablo said:
I think they are manned, not sure as the website isn’t great. Thus you can’t just go in with an angle grinder and help yourself….

I’d bet they get a fair few subscribers at £20 a month though and there probably aren’t that many £1 a day users who get a space if members can book in advance.

There’s a place on Skinner Street which is £6500 rent pa, if you did repairs, sold spares like lights, tubes etc and added a little coffee machine, you could easily make a living off that.
Yes, maybe. It was the comment at the top about making a killing. Once you factor in insurance, tax, rates, etc and it says 24/7 access so assume a coded entry at times (looks like one on door), I don’t think one shop would ever make you any real big profit.
The pic shows also charging points for E-bikes. Surely it all adds up. Can't think that they are making a killing out of this, as nice as it sounds

Harpoon

1,942 posts

220 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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The shopping centre in Worcester has secure bicycle parking with a repair station in an unused shop unit. The centre provides the space and got some grants for setting it up:

https://www.crowngate-worcester.co.uk/cycle-storag...

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/19177823.worc...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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I suppose the question is would you rather park your bike outside your office and risk it’s still there at the end of the day or park it in secure storage and have to walk perhaps ten minutes to the office?

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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T'was an Idea I had t the beginning of Covid as everyone avoided public transport and took to their bikes.
Numbers do make it look tricky though

James6112

5,193 posts

34 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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It’s a great service, would need a way to monetise it though as others say. Coffee shop / repairs / advertising etc
Maybe a council green grant. Cheap unit due to death of the high st, etc

Captain Raymond Holt

12,236 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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It’s a good idea, can see why many would use it particularly with most c2w schemes having a high limit now and e-bikes being used to commute.

I’d guess the shop is given up as a free/cheap space though, saves on having another vacant unit on the high street.

Our office has this for staff (free) but space for an around 150 bikes in the basement, plus a self serve workshop and drying room.

Probably the most secure place in town to keep a bike.

It is nice to rock up to work, get showered, changed and go to your desk not having that little feeling of will it still be there later.


Caddyshack

11,402 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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Captain Raymond Holt said:
It’s a good idea, can see why many would use it particularly with most c2w schemes having a high limit now and e-bikes being used to commute.

I’d guess the shop is given up as a free/cheap space though, saves on having another vacant unit on the high street.

Our office has this for staff (free) but space for an around 150 bikes in the basement, plus a self serve workshop and drying room.

Probably the most secure place in town to keep a bike.

It is nice to rock up to work, get showered, changed and go to your desk not having that little feeling of will it still be there later.
Wow, that sounds like the way to encourage people to ride. Brilliant idea for cities.

dontlookdown

1,912 posts

99 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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It's a good idea so I hope they can stack it up. I would have used that when I was commuting, regularly and I would use it now for shopping.

Secure bike parking is a growing issue, it's practically impossible to stop a determined thief from nicking a bike from the street if they want to, however it is locked up.

______

12,485 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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pablo said:
I think they are manned, not sure as the website isn’t great. Thus you can’t just go in with an angle grinder and help yourself….

I’d bet they get a fair few subscribers at £20 a month though and there probably aren’t that many £1 a day users who get a space if members can book in advance.

There’s a place on Skinner Street which is £6500 rent pa, if you did repairs, sold spares like lights, tubes etc and added a little coffee machine, you could easily make a living off that.
40 bikes x £1 day x 365 days = £14600 income (unrealistic as full occupancy every day)

Less £6500 rent leaves £8100 from which to cover business rates, electricity, insurance, staff wages, marketing, cost of fit out

Hardly the killing one one poster suggested.

AC43

11,891 posts

214 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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dontlookdown said:
It's a good idea so I hope they can stack it up. I would have used that when I was commuting, regularly and I would use it now for shopping.

Secure bike parking is a growing issue, it's practically impossible to stop a determined thief from nicking a bike from the street if they want to, however it is locked up.
In the 90's there was a secure bike storage place in the West End of London. I had new Diamondback at the time and even then I wouldn't leave a bike like that chained up in the open.

Captain Raymond Holt

12,236 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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Caddyshack said:
Captain Raymond Holt said:
It’s a good idea, can see why many would use it particularly with most c2w schemes having a high limit now and e-bikes being used to commute.

I’d guess the shop is given up as a free/cheap space though, saves on having another vacant unit on the high street.

Our office has this for staff (free) but space for an around 150 bikes in the basement, plus a self serve workshop and drying room.

Probably the most secure place in town to keep a bike.

It is nice to rock up to work, get showered, changed and go to your desk not having that little feeling of will it still be there later.
Wow, that sounds like the way to encourage people to ride. Brilliant idea for cities.
It’s pretty effective, near full each day.

No on-site parking helps too hehe

RizzoTheRat

25,821 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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40 bikes is way too small for that to be viable. Looking at the photos they could easily double that just with some decent racks in the current bit, and there's probably space to put the same about of racks the other side.
This kind of thing is really common around here,with shop units like this taking probably 100+ bikes, but are council funded.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,635 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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a pound a day seems ridiculously cheap. But that's the cycling community I think.

Can you park a car for a pound a day in Newport? And how much does it cost to go by public transport?

A fiver a day would be better, but of course, cyclists and sanctimonious tight wads spring to mind.

Greenmantle

1,393 posts

114 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
a pound a day seems ridiculously cheap. But that's the cycling community I think.

Can you park a car for a pound a day in Newport? And how much does it cost to go by public transport?

A fiver a day would be better, but of course, cyclists and sanctimonious tight wads spring to mind.
yes too cheap
even if you double it to £2 a day then its still cheaper than a coffee.