Number plates and speed limits
Discussion
Grant Shaps, the minister of many names, has voiced a desire to require cyclists to have some sort of identification and insurance so we can be procedures for speeding.
It’s obviously never going to happen but well done to him for further inciting the pointless conflict between drivers and cyclists.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-625712...
It’s obviously never going to happen but well done to him for further inciting the pointless conflict between drivers and cyclists.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-625712...
The bit from the article that caught my eye (after taking note of the death of Darius) was:
"growing belief among ministers that riders should abide by the same speed restrictions as other motorists, amid an increase in cyclists."
I've seen words like that before. Is it really the case that motorists abide by laws and cyclists don't? I have insurance and number plates on my car and must have broken the speed limit 1000s of times in my 40 years as a driver. (I do acknowledge that this point has been discussed on PH countless times.)
"growing belief among ministers that riders should abide by the same speed restrictions as other motorists, amid an increase in cyclists."
I've seen words like that before. Is it really the case that motorists abide by laws and cyclists don't? I have insurance and number plates on my car and must have broken the speed limit 1000s of times in my 40 years as a driver. (I do acknowledge that this point has been discussed on PH countless times.)
More proof that they hate the public and totally despise us. Unlikely to really happen but Ill ride a bike with number plates when pedestrians are forced to wear ID numbers hanging round their necks and not before.
It's simply idiot tories trying to garner support among the Daliy hateMail reading halfwits.
It's simply idiot tories trying to garner support among the Daliy hateMail reading halfwits.
a few things.
The only country with mandatory number plates for cyclists is North Korea….
If it ever happens, I’m going to instantly remove it and watch the motorists seeth with anger, then for fun, replace it with one from a random car, then for greater shots and giggles f
k about with the spacing and the font so it’s completely indecipherable, then stick it in a random place on the bike….. then, knowing no traffic police will ever stop me, simply remove it forever.
Can someone explain how having number plates has reduced driving offences, removed untaxed/insured cars off the road, made driving any safer…
On average 5 people will die in a car today. Deaths on the road have been normalised to the point that no one cares but a cyclist going through a red light, unquestionably only ever putting themselves in danger, is the bigger issue.
The only country with mandatory number plates for cyclists is North Korea….
If it ever happens, I’m going to instantly remove it and watch the motorists seeth with anger, then for fun, replace it with one from a random car, then for greater shots and giggles f
k about with the spacing and the font so it’s completely indecipherable, then stick it in a random place on the bike….. then, knowing no traffic police will ever stop me, simply remove it forever.Can someone explain how having number plates has reduced driving offences, removed untaxed/insured cars off the road, made driving any safer…
On average 5 people will die in a car today. Deaths on the road have been normalised to the point that no one cares but a cyclist going through a red light, unquestionably only ever putting themselves in danger, is the bigger issue.
IJWS15 said:
It is another area where those they want to catch would not comply anyway, what they need is more police not more legislation.
This, there’s recent footage of nearly a hundred chavs on quads, electric motorbikes and mopeds charging through an estate and past a police car somewhere near Middlesbrough. They aren’t wearing helmets so police guidance is do not chase. So the chavs just pull wheelies and take the piss. That’s who they want to catch, not cyclists like me. but as you say, they won’t fit plates anyway.What this really boils down to is “amidst a rise in cyclists, we want them back in their cars where they can pay tax….”
Let be fair it will only impact those in that there London, the plates would be for cameras to catch the red light brigade.
Can you imagine the police reports from members of the public? He was wearing very tight lycra with a bit of a beer belly while puffing and panting outside my house, I managed to run in and get my easel and paints to capture his number plate.
Can you imagine the police reports from members of the public? He was wearing very tight lycra with a bit of a beer belly while puffing and panting outside my house, I managed to run in and get my easel and paints to capture his number plate.
Although its a smoke screen for the current cost of living crisis, I personally think that this may come into effect for anyone on a motorised or assisted type bikes. Whilst there are few injuries to pedestrians or fatalities from traditional pedal cycles, the development of motorised or assisted bikes and the increase in speed and use by some of the less than law abiding parts of society means that this figure is bound to increase.
Unfortunately the press does not discriminate between us on bikes or a scrote on bike, we're all just 'cyclists'
Unfortunately the press does not discriminate between us on bikes or a scrote on bike, we're all just 'cyclists'
It's about money rather than safety, in London TFL are poised to start generating income from the speed cameras and with the advent of blanket 20mph zones even on well sighted down stretches it's likely that quite a few cyclists are now triggering the speed camera's, in some cases perhaps even more so than the number of cars so they will want that revenue stream.
Rental bikes and scooters already have ID numbers on them so it's not much of a stretch to think that in the near future all forms of mechanical movement will need ID.
Rental bikes and scooters already have ID numbers on them so it's not much of a stretch to think that in the near future all forms of mechanical movement will need ID.
The concept of having to register, and fit numberplates, to a bicycle, is just about the stupidest idea I have heard recently.
As already said, it will never happen, it's just the government throwing yet more red meat to thick people to distract from the fact that they are utterly incompetent.
As already said, it will never happen, it's just the government throwing yet more red meat to thick people to distract from the fact that they are utterly incompetent.
A cyclist being required to have some form of identification for the bike, to use the roads is a good thing. However I can't see that a 21st century problem can be solved with a 1920's solution.
I think a cyclists should have some form 4G mobile device that broadcasts location. Like Strava, but it can be tracked externally. I think it could be useful in the event of an accident, that is more evidence as to the riders culpability/lack of culpability when hit by a lorry.
It might also capture speed, lane discipline and determine whether the cyclist has paid road tax, either by owning a car, or separately for those who are completely anti car.
The idea is not without merit, although the execution could be tidied up a bit.
I think a cyclists should have some form 4G mobile device that broadcasts location. Like Strava, but it can be tracked externally. I think it could be useful in the event of an accident, that is more evidence as to the riders culpability/lack of culpability when hit by a lorry.
It might also capture speed, lane discipline and determine whether the cyclist has paid road tax, either by owning a car, or separately for those who are completely anti car.
The idea is not without merit, although the execution could be tidied up a bit.
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