What does a knackered bottom bracket sound like?

What does a knackered bottom bracket sound like?

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boyse7en

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7,035 posts

171 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Got a new and expensive sounding noise on my bike.
It's a randomly-timed clunking sound (the closest thing i can liken it too is a stone in a cement mixer). Three or four clunks per turn of the cranks. It's not rhythmic in time with pedal strokes and doesn't seem to change much with speed either.
The noise stops if i stop pedalling, and also stops under heavy load (like when i cycled up Cheddar Gorge) but soon returns.

Does that point to bottom bracket issues?

JayRidesBikes

1,312 posts

135 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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boyse7en said:
Got a new and expensive sounding noise on my bike.
It's a randomly-timed clunking sound (the closest thing i can liken it too is a stone in a cement mixer). Three or four clunks per turn of the cranks. It's not rhythmic in time with pedal strokes and doesn't seem to change much with speed either.
The noise stops if i stop pedalling, and also stops under heavy load (like when i cycled up Cheddar Gorge) but soon returns.

Does that point to bottom bracket issues?
Does it make noise when out of the saddle?

I'd be checking that your saddle rails are tight, your quick release / axles are tight, everything that can possibly need grease or lube has it applied, check your pedals and cleats before looking at a bottom bracket.

Edit: When my BB died recently it the noise got louder the more power I applied through the pedals.


river_rat

702 posts

209 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Check 'everything' is tightened up as it should be.

I recently had a random noise which I put down to bottom bracket - turned out the crank was very very slightly loose and was causing an awful noise.

In the past a slightly loose rear axle, peddle bearings shot, plus a lot of other loose/wormn items have also made noises that sound like a shot BB.

Good Luck finding it!

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,686 posts

61 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Just pull the crank out. It's a 5 min job max. Rotate the BB bearings with your finger and check for smooth rotation.

Also worth checking chain ring bolt tightness.

jfdi

1,125 posts

181 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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river_rat said:
Check 'everything' is tightened up as it should be.
Yep, EVERYTHING. Almost a year of replacing, dismantling, greasing, reassembling to eventually find the cause of the click driving me crazy. The tiny screw holding the front mech bracket to the frame being slightly loose.

jfdi

1,125 posts

181 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Also worth checking chain ring bolt tightness.
I'd done those at least 5 times.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,686 posts

61 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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jfdi said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Also worth checking chain ring bolt tightness.
I'd done those at least 5 times.
Worst I've had was a possibly not up to spec rivet on an xtr cassette. Creaks slightly - took me ages and several bb and crank strip and cleans + pedal service. <sigh>

ScotHill

3,437 posts

115 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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A creaky stem turned out to be the brake cable housing moving in its frame attachment.

A bottom bracket click turned out to be a couple of loose spokes moving against each other as the chain pulled the wheel around, and not while free-wheeling.

A cartilage click in my knee turned out to be my lace hitting the top of my shoe on the downstroke.

Bicycles are bds.

Matt_N

8,915 posts

208 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Rear skewer?

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,686 posts

61 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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ScotHill said:
A creaky stem turned out to be the brake cable housing moving in its frame attachment.

A bottom bracket click turned out to be a couple of loose spokes moving against each other as the chain pulled the wheel around, and not while free-wheeling.

A cartilage click in my knee turned out to be my lace hitting the top of my shoe on the downstroke.

Bicycles are bds.
We ought to have a thread on this - hugely frustrating noises that took ages to diagnose.

boyse7en

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7,035 posts

171 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
ScotHill said:
A creaky stem turned out to be the brake cable housing moving in its frame attachment.

A bottom bracket click turned out to be a couple of loose spokes moving against each other as the chain pulled the wheel around, and not while free-wheeling.

A cartilage click in my knee turned out to be my lace hitting the top of my shoe on the downstroke.

Bicycles are bds.
We ought to have a thread on this - hugely frustrating noises that took ages to diagnose.
I've got the horrible feeling i might have just started that thread!

yellowjack

17,201 posts

172 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Listen to your bearings. All of them.

You need to lift the bike, at least one end of it at a time. Work stand, hooked on a fence, suspended from a tree branch or the rafters in a garage/shed will do it. Then literally put your ear to the frame and operate each bearing ONE AT A TIME. Move your ear closer to the bearing you are listening for helps, but the tubes amplify the noises your bike makes. This is bad when you are riding it because you are fooled into thinking it is one thing (and fixing that thing) when the source of irritation is something else entirely. But it is good when you isolate each bearing individually. Listen at the top tube for headset bearings, non drive-side seat tube or down tube for bottom bracket bearings, fork legs for front hub bearings and seat stays for rear hubs. In fact, for a bottom bracket bearing you don't even need to lift the bike - just roll the pedal cranks backwards and you'll either get the smooth "rush" of a bearing in fine fettle, or you'll get a crunching or grumbling noise which will be somewhere on the scale between "keep an eye on it" to "m8, it's farked - change it NOW!"

My current annoying noise is emanating from my road bike's saddle. Everything that can be "nipped up" is correctly so nipped. The creak is coming from the saddle rails which aren't holding the nose and tail of the saddle apart with quite the tension they were when new. Fair play to it, I've ridden (and sometimes abused) it for 20,500 miles, but every time I get close to thinking I've put enough aside for a new seat another more pressing matter will raise it's head like a new crankset for my gravel bike or a chain/cassette refresh for my MTB. It's not uncomfortable, just audibly annoying. And not so much annoying me, but it crimps the st of anyone who rides with me...

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,686 posts

61 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Best cure for saddle creak I've found is silicone spray. Bike upside down liberally spray over the bottom with part where the tubes interface with base moulding.

TwistingMyMelon

6,390 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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All I need to do is look to see if the bike has a press fit BB

If yes - there is your problem - any noise then that is the cause - any noise!/creak/fault

Futureologist

206 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Matt_N said:
Rear skewer?
Wish i checked this before i replaced by bb last week! Turned out to be exactly that.

Matt_N

8,915 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Futureologist said:
Wish i checked this before i replaced by bb last week! Turned out to be exactly that.
Doh.

Anytime I get a ‘noise’ I’m off the bike checking skewers. Really ashamed to say that the other day the rear one was very loose on my freshly built bike irked