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Fantastic ride. First women's ride and British winner of any sex. Made the last 10k look easy, when I thought Voss was about to ruin that big early break.
Bike radars post-ride bike shots with bloodied bar tape really shows the pain of the cobbles.
Also pretty funny Trek managed 2 on the podium but team car DNF'd with a puncture. Not just hell for riders.
Weather forecast looking even better (worse) for tomorrow.
Bike radars post-ride bike shots with bloodied bar tape really shows the pain of the cobbles.
Also pretty funny Trek managed 2 on the podium but team car DNF'd with a puncture. Not just hell for riders.
Weather forecast looking even better (worse) for tomorrow.
Edited by Dnlm on Saturday 2nd October 22:56
Started at Arenberg, managed to then get to Gruson, walked through the sector to get the Carrefour as well. 3 sectors, 2 of the 5 star ones.
I’ve ridden the sportive, I e watched it before live and also watched the tour through before as well. But nothing prepared me for the pain etched of their faces today, conditions were brutal and credit to everyone who even started that race today.
Screenshot from video on the Carrefour off my phone ….
I’ve ridden the sportive, I e watched it before live and also watched the tour through before as well. But nothing prepared me for the pain etched of their faces today, conditions were brutal and credit to everyone who even started that race today.
Screenshot from video on the Carrefour off my phone ….
Your Dad said:
£1300 top prize for the women, £26000 for the men.
Ain’t equality great!
Yeah that's a joke.Ain’t equality great!
At least her team has been matching the men's payouts all season, so she'll walk away with the same.
Not the way to do it but at least someone is beginning to acknowledge the issue.
Johno said:
Started at Arenberg, managed to then get to Gruson, walked through the sector to get the Carrefour as well. 3 sectors, 2 of the 5 star ones.
I’ve ridden the sportive, I e watched it before live and also watched the tour through before as well. But nothing prepared me for the pain etched of their faces today, conditions were brutal and credit to everyone who even started that race today.
Screenshot from video on the Carrefour off my phone ….
That's a great photo.I’ve ridden the sportive, I e watched it before live and also watched the tour through before as well. But nothing prepared me for the pain etched of their faces today, conditions were brutal and credit to everyone who even started that race today.
Screenshot from video on the Carrefour off my phone ….
It certainly looked brutal on the highlights I watched.
I wonder why there are no mudguards/flaps of any kind used?
I'm finally grateful for rain. I've been watching it for about 10 years now and loved seeing the bloody-awful dust getting kicked up. Howeve this years spectical was epic with the mud. it was weird seeing them ride around the track at the end with what looked like flat tyres, man those pressures must have been low. I do feel for Moscon though, that crash must have took everything he had left out of him.
Lizzie, WOOHOO, never thought she would survive from 80-20km and i was pretty nervous, but from the 20k mark it was time to celebrate.
Lizzie, WOOHOO, never thought she would survive from 80-20km and i was pretty nervous, but from the 20k mark it was time to celebrate.
gts.981 said:
Your Dad said:
£1300 top prize for the women, £26000 for the men.
Ain’t equality great!
If men and women are ‘equal’ let’s have an open race - men and women together. How much do you think women would win then…..?Ain’t equality great!
See Women's Super League footie. Arsenal Men attract just shy of 60,000 fans to the Emirates Stadium. I looked for attendance figures for Arsenal Women and just get a column of "N/A" under attendance for this season and last. Over two seasons Borehamwood FC (where Arsenal Women used to play) the average attendances were 691 per game (2019/20 season) and 718 per game the season before that. Capacity at Meadow Park is 4,500 (1,700 seated). I can only surmise that attendances for Arsenal Women as so low as to be "too embarrassing to publish while we look to push and equal pay agenda". And we've long had the debate about equal prize money at Wimbledon, despite the women's compatition being limited to "best of three" rather than best of five" sets. If women aren't up to playing for as long as the men then why should they be entitled to an equal share of the prize money? Well in that case it seems that demand for tickets to watch the spectacle, and sponsorship deals, are high for both genders so it's easier to argue the case for prize money equality. cycling has some way to go before men and women deliver even remotely similar levels of spectacle, I'm afraid. And it's not the fault of the professional women cyclists either, imho. It's about the lack of opportunity for them to compete on an equal basis, with women's versions of traditional races taking place over fewer stage racing days, and much shorter distances in many cases. I think many would love to see more bike racing full stop. And that means more women's racing. But until the willingness is there to close roads for women's professional bike races as readily as they do for the men's events, then equal pay and/or prize money does seem rather like "putting the cart before the horse"...
Prize money is a bit moot point of cycling anyway. It isn't where a pro makes their money, and it is split among many people when it is won. Good of Trek to match it for Lizzie, but there's of course root causes etc of why.
Personally I have little interest in watching women's cycling beyond the exploits of those I know personally, I may be the minority, I may not. But sponsors unless they are willing to not get a positive ROI, will not pile into the women's side of things until the interest is there, when it is there, they will. There however must be a way to get more of it televised, running before/after men so logistically it doesn't cost more to show it, I do think there needs to be an effort there because it's pretty hard to get behind something that never gets to see the light of day.
Personally I have little interest in watching women's cycling beyond the exploits of those I know personally, I may be the minority, I may not. But sponsors unless they are willing to not get a positive ROI, will not pile into the women's side of things until the interest is there, when it is there, they will. There however must be a way to get more of it televised, running before/after men so logistically it doesn't cost more to show it, I do think there needs to be an effort there because it's pretty hard to get behind something that never gets to see the light of day.
I'm both in favour of more women's sport , and concious of the business limitations.
Very chicken and eggy - more coverage will lead to interest, higher sponsorship, ad infinitum. Cycling is absolutely useless at making money, across every level. So a bit harder to do this.
Having said that, major PR win for trek-segafredo. Sure the big men's teams are paying bonuses many times their awful (vs other sports) prize money!!
Very chicken and eggy - more coverage will lead to interest, higher sponsorship, ad infinitum. Cycling is absolutely useless at making money, across every level. So a bit harder to do this.
Having said that, major PR win for trek-segafredo. Sure the big men's teams are paying bonuses many times their awful (vs other sports) prize money!!
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