Brooks saddles suspended shipping to UK

Brooks saddles suspended shipping to UK

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pistonheadforum

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1,170 posts

127 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I was looking to order a few saddles (always Brooks!) and was going to get direct from Brooks.

But it seems they are not longer shipping them to the UK:

https://www.brooksengland.com/en_uk/uk-shipping-no...

I can't quite get my head around that one! Presumably they don't want to ship them from the UK (where they are made) but would rather ship them from Europe where they are stored?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Imagine being saddled with that...

pistonheadforum

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

127 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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mybrainhurts said:
Imagine being saddled with that...
Must have been leathered on the import charges.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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hehe

pistonheadforum

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

127 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Anybody bought bike parts from Europe now that we are no longer in the EU?

Can I expect a wallet flattening additional tax at import? Will the additional charge be collected by the original retailer abroad or seperately by the courier company?

Many thanks.

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

141 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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pistonheadforum said:
Anybody bought bike parts from Europe now that we are no longer in the EU?

Can I expect a wallet flattening additional tax at import? Will the additional charge be collected by the original retailer abroad or seperately by the courier company?

Many thanks.
That seems to depend on many things, value of part, individual retailer, courier, phase of moon etc. In theory I believe it's either dealt with by the retailer OR is sold tax free, then vat collected on import, plus of course a fee from the courier for organising all that, dependent on whether it is above/below some threshold.
Some retailers are stopping shipping / have high minimum orders. They still have to give you return options / many folks are getting things, seeing the fees and rejecting, whereupon it becomes the sellers liability (plus possibly paying the same again to get it back). So, a royal cluster***k basically.

In practice, I've just given up on the idea of buying anything that needs to ship, just not worth it.

ruggedscotty

5,762 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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pistonheadforum said:
mybrainhurts said:
Imagine being saddled with that...
Must have been leathered on the import charges.
they should have taken that seat on the EC board....

RC1807

12,881 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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ruggedscotty said:
pistonheadforum said:
mybrainhurts said:
Imagine being saddled with that...
Must have been leathered on the import charges.
they should have taken that seat on the EC board....
That wouldn't sit right.....



It's similar to the rest of us Brits living in the EU. Difficult to get stuff shipped to us, then we get clobbers with import duty. I'd love to buy some bike gear from a UK base company, but thcharges aren't worth it now. frown

Edited by RC1807 on Friday 16th April 07:20

neilr

1,527 posts

269 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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but, but, weve taken back control, isnt that all that matters? oh wait, it's almost like its a giant clusterfk isnt it.


frisbee

5,112 posts

116 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Show your dedication to Brexit and ride without a saddle!

CambsBill

2,041 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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anonymous said:
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Bit of an exaggeration - I bought a Cambium saddle for £80 in February last year (can't remember if it was discounted at the time), same retailer is now selling the same saddle for £85.

MrBarry123

6,037 posts

127 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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frisbee said:
Show your dedication to Brexit and ride without a saddle!
hehe

Sway

28,544 posts

200 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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It's their business model.

Manufacture in UK (for leather ones, not cambiums) ship in bulk to Italy, then distribute from there for direct retail sales across Europe.

However, quite why they cannot perform an incredibly straightforward customs process is staggering for a big firm like Selle Italia.

As has been mentioned, they're managing B2B distribution just fine.

The VAT side of things is a ballache - and nothing to do with Brexit. That's something all of Europe is doing to counter the systemic VAT fraud being performed by China and their supported businesses such as Wish. Would have been a bit easier if the EU maintained the same implementation date that was agreed across Europe of Jan 1st, rather than the melange that's currently in place.

Oh, and I bloody adore my Brooks B17...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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neilr said:
but, but, weve taken back control, isnt that all that matters? oh wait, it's almost like its a giant clusterfk isnt it.
Yes, dear...

pistonheadforum

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

127 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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I just don't get why they can't deliver the newly made ones to the UK without shipping them around Europe first?

Do they just not want to sell another saddle to a UK customer? Surely the back end logistic can't be beyond a company their size?

I can't think of another company that makes a product in the UK that they don't want to sell here. Regardless of your opinion on the EU it seems like a bonkers businees practice - like Toyota building cars in Japan but not selling them there.


Edited by pistonheadforum on Saturday 17th April 16:52

robsa

2,320 posts

190 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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pistonheadforum said:
I just don't get why they can't deliver the newly made ones to the UK without shipping them around Europe first?

Do they just not want to sell another saddle to a UK customer? Surely the back end logistic can't be beyond a company their size?

I can't think of another company that makes a product in the UK that they don't want to sell here. Regardless of your opinion on the EU it seems like a bokers businees practice - like Toyota building cars in Japan but not selling them there.
Are they made in England? Selle Royal are Italian.

Sway

28,544 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th April 2021
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robsa said:
pistonheadforum said:
I just don't get why they can't deliver the newly made ones to the UK without shipping them around Europe first?

Do they just not want to sell another saddle to a UK customer? Surely the back end logistic can't be beyond a company their size?

I can't think of another company that makes a product in the UK that they don't want to sell here. Regardless of your opinion on the EU it seems like a bokers businees practice - like Toyota building cars in Japan but not selling them there.
Are they made in England? Selle Royal are Italian.
Leather ones are, and always have been.

pistonheadforum

Original Poster:

1,170 posts

127 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Anybody purchased online from Bikester? - https://www.bikester.co.uk

Likely to have to pay additional import duty?

Sway

28,544 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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I haven't from them, but there aren't customs tariffs in either direction (UK-EU) regardless.

Squadrone Rosso

2,870 posts

153 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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pistonheadforum said:
Anybody purchased online from Bikester? - https://www.bikester.co.uk

Likely to have to pay additional import duty?
No additional charge. It’s covered in their FAQs. I’ve used fem for other bike bits.