Portable lock/security advice please.

[Deep]

Hi
I've done some googling but thought I'd ask the wise old folk of PHs as well.
I'm after a highly portable device to secure my bike. I tend to ride for at least 2 hours when I go out and am not the fittest person so the weight really matters.

I won't be leaving the bike anywhere for long, maybe to pop into a shop for 15 minutes. I appreciate a device which is light and portable will not be the last word in security.

Happy to spend some money for peace of mind so cost not really an issue. I'll still be very vigilant and as mentioned, bike will not be left long.

Thank you.

[anonymous-user]

Nothing will beat a determined thief with the right tools and often they have bolt cutters in a ruck sack or something so they are prepared. They know the value of bikes and know what to target.
If you don’t want to lose the bike, don’t leave it unattended. There’s no easily portable, lightweight lock worth buying imho.

[frisbee]

pablo said:

Nothing will beat a determined thief with the right tools and often they have bolt cutters in a ruck sack or something so they are prepared. They know the value of bikes and know what to target.
If you don’t want to lose the bike, don’t leave it unattended. There’s no easily portable, lightweight lock worth buying imho.

Nothing sensibly portable will stop a prepared thief but the little cable ski locks will stop an opportunist from just walking off with your bike.

[anonymous-user]

Check your insurance, if you have it.

Mine asks for a very specific standard of lock depending on the value of the bike.

The lock required for my carbon road bike negates the weight saved in having a carbon frame!

[leyorkie]

If you need full protection then you need the hip lock range but they weigh in at around 2.4 kg.
If it’s occasional use then any cable lock would work. Cafe stops/ toilet stops are not planned so it would normally be opportunistic theft which a good cable lock should protect from. The use of bolt croppers etc is planned so they go for places where bikes are left alone for a long time.

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leyorkie said:

If you need full protection then you need the hip lock range but they weigh in at around 2.4 kg.
If it’s occasional use then any cable lock would work. Cafe stops/ toilet stops are not planned so it would normally be opportunistic theft which a good cable lock should protect from. The use of bolt croppers etc is planned so they go for places where bikes are left alone for a long time.

Hi
I don't expect anywhere near full protection and the bike isn't insured away from the home anyway.
It's exactly what you say, ie the unexpected toilet break/quick cafe stop to grab a refreshment etc. Even in these circumstances I would endeavour to keep the bike in line of sight if possible.

It's just to stop somebody literally just jumping on my bike and riding off.

Is there any particular cable lock you would recommend?

Thanks

[frisbee]

I've take one of these of I'm on a very long ride by myself and I'll need to stop to refuel:

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-combiflex-2501-cable...

Its not going to stop someone who has any sort of wire cutters but it'll stop someone from simply walking off with the bike.

[defblade]

I've got one of these:
http://www.onguardlock.com/store/terrier-8061
for light weight/quick stops... it's a fair bit stronger/better made than it looks in the pics, but I'm under no illusions that it's anything other than stopping someone just jumping on and riding off.

A decent d-lock is the minimum if you really want some protection, but weight...

A QR seat clamp means you can take your seatpost and saddle with you; again this might deter casual theft... although if you don't detach it, it's easier for someone to nick your nice saddle...

[anonymous-user]

Deep said:

leyorkie said:

If you need full protection then you need the hip lock range but they weigh in at around 2.4 kg.
If it’s occasional use then any cable lock would work. Cafe stops/ toilet stops are not planned so it would normally be opportunistic theft which a good cable lock should protect from. The use of bolt croppers etc is planned so they go for places where bikes are left alone for a long time.

Hi
I don't expect anywhere near full protection and the bike isn't insured away from the home anyway.
It's exactly what you say, ie the unexpected toilet break/quick cafe stop to grab a refreshment etc. Even in these circumstances I would endeavour to keep the bike in line of sight if possible.

It's just to stop somebody literally just jumping on my bike and riding off.

Is there any particular cable lock you would recommend?

Thanks

Good article here covering most options and their durability. If it’s literally just to stop an opportunist who is walking past, the Onguard cable thing would be fine

[leyorkie]

Job done
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/BLJOLUNG/jobsworth-l...

PlanetX stuff is usually premium makes badged differently. Their lights are Moon and Lezyne copies and work very well. I don’t have any of their locks so I can’t comment specifically

[tendown]

I used to use one of the retractable things, but have now moved to one of these:
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/products/product...

Together with an abus titalium padlock. These look like a normal padlock but are much lighter, I chose one that would just go around the disc brake and chainstay so even if they snip the cable the bike isn't rideable till they can chop the padlock.

Together they're pretty much as light as a retractable ski lock but a bit more secure

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frisbee said:

I've take one of these of I'm on a very long ride by myself and I'll need to stop to refuel:

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-combiflex-2501-cable...

Its not going to stop someone who has any sort of wire cutters but it'll stop someone from simply walking off with the bike.

Thank you

[Deep]

defblade said:

I've got one of these:
http://www.onguardlock.com/store/terrier-8061
for light weight/quick stops... it's a fair bit stronger/better made than it looks in the pics, but I'm under no illusions that it's anything other than stopping someone just jumping on and riding off.

A decent d-lock is the minimum if you really want some protection, but weight...

A QR seat clamp means you can take your seatpost and saddle with you; again this might deter casual theft... although if you don't detach it, it's easier for someone to nick your nice saddle...

Thanks

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pablo said:

Good article here covering most options and their durability. If it’s literally just to stop an opportunist who is walking past, the Onguard cable thing would be fine

Thanks. The Ottolock hex looks interesting

[Deep]

leyorkie said:

Job done
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/BLJOLUNG/jobsworth-l...

PlanetX stuff is usually premium makes badged differently. Their lights are Moon and Lezyne copies and work very well. I don’t have any of their locks so I can’t comment specifically

Thank you, very decent price

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tendown said:

I used to use one of the retractable things, but have now moved to one of these:
https://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/products/product...

Together with an abus titalium padlock. These look like a normal padlock but are much lighter, I chose one that would just go around the disc brake and chainstay so even if they snip the cable the bike isn't rideable till they can chop the padlock.

Together they're pretty much as light as a retractable ski lock but a bit more secure

Thanks, seems like a good idea. Any chance you might be kind enough to take a pic to show how you thread the cable and more importantly where/how the lock is positioned?

Thank you

[tendown]

It's a 64TI /40 padlock
Both together weigh 150g, my planet x retractable jobby weighs 90g, but then the krptonite is 5mm wire Vs the 2mm of the retractable one, similar length

[defblade]

tendown said:

It's a 64TI /40 padlock
Both together weigh 150g, my planet x retractable jobby weighs 90g, but then the krptonite is 5mm wire Vs the 2mm of the retractable one, similar length

I like that idea... bookmarked for future reference

[Sway]

Yep, tendown is a genius!

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tendown said:

It's a 64TI /40 padlock
Both together weigh 150g, my planet x retractable jobby weighs 90g, but then the krptonite is 5mm wire Vs the 2mm of the retractable one, similar length

Thank you kindly!
This will probably be a really stupid question but....I can see where the padlock goes and I can see one cable loop, where does the second loop go?