Are mountain bikes the new GT3?

[oddman]

Looking for new bike. Seems that the 2021 stock of some high end brands (Yeti, Santa Cruz)is already sold. I managed to order the bike I wanted but one of (if not) the last Stif had in stock. Such a backlog for building I'll be picking mine up end of next month.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Lots of bargains in here and in Stock

https://www.stifmtb.com/collections/bike-outlet

[oddman]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Lots of bargains in here and in Stock

https://www.stifmtb.com/collections/bike-outlet

Cheers - saw that.

Fortunately what I wanted was in stock. The model, finishing kit and size I wanted. A complete coincidence - now just a long wait for it to be built.

[davidc1]

Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.

[Simes205]

I managed to get a carbon Santa Cruz frame from Stiff last October. I was after an Chameleon alloy version but took the carbon. I built it up from scratch with new parts.
A fully built version would have taken 3 months to arrive.

[Roaringopenfire]

Even mid-tier in short supply. I ordered a Specialized in colour of my choice in November. Delivery is May/June.

[ian in lancs]

davidc1 said:

Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.

I think you're right!

[PaulD86]

ian in lancs said:

davidc1 said:

Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.

I think you're right!

Only problem is that biking will be more expensive - Looking at the latest version of the bike I ride, it looks like it has gone up in price 15% every year since I bought mine. If that continues the 2030 version will be £23,000. Bike prices have gone beyond ridiculous.

[emicen]

Very interesting subject this one.

I saw a Facebook marketplace post the other day, for a Specialized Levo SL Comp in carbon fibre. "Brand new, still in box" and "unwanted christmas present," £6,500rrp reduced to £5,500. Not to cast aspersions, but it was a very generic "middle class" lifestyle portrayed in the person's Facebook profile. Can't help but feel there is a hell of a lot of people got thoroughly carried away with spending bounceback loans and furlough wages.

At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.

[gazza285]

Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

emicen said:

Very interesting subject this one.

I saw a Facebook marketplace post the other day, for a Specialized Levo SL Comp in carbon fibre. "Brand new, still in box" and "unwanted christmas present," £6,500rrp reduced to £5,500. Not to cast aspersions, but it was a very generic "middle class" lifestyle portrayed in the person's Facebook profile. Can't help but feel there is a hell of a lot of people got thoroughly carried away with spending bounceback loans and furlough wages.

At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.

Without sounding cynical 'unwanted Christmas present' I.e. fenced on item from business burglary...

[oddman]

PaulD86 said:

Only problem is that biking will be more expensive - Looking at the latest version of the bike I ride, it looks like it has gone up in price 15% every year since I bought mine. If that continues the 2030 version will be £23,000. Bike prices have gone beyond ridiculous.

My 1996 Santa Cruz Heckler was the thick end of 3k new

I think the new offerings are pretty good value

[Hugo Stiglitz]

My 2020 Santa Cruz 5010 frame was 1700 new.

In 2004 my Santa Cruz Heckler in rootbeer with fifth element coil was 1100.

16yrs and only that much more.

[anonymous-user]

emicen said:

Very interesting subject this one.

I saw a Facebook marketplace post the other day, for a Specialized Levo SL Comp in carbon fibre. "Brand new, still in box" and "unwanted christmas present," £6,500rrp reduced to £5,500. Not to cast aspersions, but it was a very generic "middle class" lifestyle portrayed in the person's Facebook profile. Can't help but feel there is a hell of a lot of people got thoroughly carried away with spending bounceback loans and furlough wages.

At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.

Or cycleschemes (not 5.5k obviously)
But a higher rate taxpayer can buy a 3k bike for a little over 1.5k. Interest free over a year. No further charges. I bet a few of those end up for sale at a ‘profit’

[PaulD86]

oddman said:

My 1996 Santa Cruz Heckler was the thick end of 3k new

I think the new offerings are pretty good value

That's £5750 in todays money (2.8%/ year inflation). I've observed my bike model going up 15% a year over the last 3. That's what I am meaning with bike prices. They seem to be going up a lot faster than just the rate of inflation these days.

[budgie smuggler]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

My 2020 Santa Cruz 5010 frame was 1700 new.

In 2004 my Santa Cruz Heckler in rootbeer with fifth element coil was 1100.

16yrs and only that much more.

Were those at RRP? The most recent aluminium 5010 frame is selling for 1900 today, though it is discontinued.

An example posted on Singletrack shows an example of the very recent increases:

stw said:

Example Canyon Neuron 6:

Apr 2020 £1649
Nov 2020 £1849
Jan 2021 £2099

Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 25th January 10:43

[anonymous-user]

gazza285 said:

Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.

I doubt it somehow!

[gazza285]

Jimboka said:

gazza285 said:

Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.

I doubt it somehow!

Maybe not vaccinated and back to normal then.

[Indoraptor]

Jimboka said:

gazza285 said:

Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.

I doubt it somehow!

Quite. When the folk who bought the bikes because of lockdown realise how much of a kick in the nuts they’ll get if they want to sell them, they’ll mostly probably hang on to the bike.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

budgie smuggler said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

My 2020 Santa Cruz 5010 frame was 1700 new.

In 2004 my Santa Cruz Heckler in rootbeer with fifth element coil was 1100.

16yrs and only that much more.

Were those at RRP? The most recent aluminium 5010 frame is selling for 1900 today, though it is discontinued.

An example posted on Singletrack shows an example of the very recent increases:

stw said:

Example Canyon Neuron 6:

Apr 2020 £1649
Nov 2020 £1849
Jan 2021 £2099

Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 25th January 10:43

Mine was reduced. The Heckler RRP. I bought the 5010 early lockdown. The Canyon pricing is ridiculous and I wouldn't buy out of principle. The market will sort it out and probably post lockdown alot of people will sell again.


Where is everyone riding these new bikes?!!!

I saw a really good recent vid on stw of the Swiss DH that someone posted up and I must admit I had a moment of depression.

The dust, the fatigue, the feeling of calm. fk.