Winter MTB Tyres

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Mr Scruff

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1,342 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Sure I read something about this recently but can’t find the thread.

Been riding Nobby Nic/Racing Ralph on my 29” full sus but it’s getting slippery out there now. Most of my riding is Chilterns woodland, so beech leaves, chalk and flint. Any recommendations for tyres that won’t break the bank? Not really in a position to pay £45 a tyre. Previously used High Rollers on my old 26” (the original version), are the new ones any good?

MarcelM6

567 posts

112 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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I find Nobby Nics quite good in winter. Many years ago I tried a mud specific Schwalbe tyre. It was good in soft, gloopy mud, but anything hard and the long knobs made it squirm a lot. So I went back to Nobby Nics and rode them all year round. I'm in clay country so a tyre that clears mud is quite important.

I don't know anything that will do really well on wet leaves and chalk.

jackh707

2,128 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Maxxis DHF front DHR rear.

Love mud and slop, can climb up a slip and slide with the rear.

However are heavy, but it just makes you fitter.

England87

1,418 posts

103 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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I’m tempted by the Michelin enduro’s, has anyone got experience of them?

Mr Scruff

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1,342 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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I was wondering about the DHF and DHR, Tredz seem to have them at a decent price but I know nothing about them. Not bothered about weight, pretty unlikely I’d notice any difference

aka_kerrly

12,488 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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jackh707 said:
Maxxis DHF front DHR rear.

Love mud and slop, can climb up a slip and slide with the rear.

However are heavy, but it just makes you fitter.
Yep The Maxxis Minion is a great shout, I mix it up a bit with a Minion on the front and a High Roller 2 on the rear.

gazza285

10,098 posts

214 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Nobby Nics for winter, Racing Ralphs for summer.
Single speed for winter, Deore XT for summer.

Edited by gazza285 on Friday 2nd October 22:44

Simes205

4,618 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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aka_kerrly said:
jackh707 said:
Maxxis DHF front DHR rear.

Love mud and slop, can climb up a slip and slide with the rear.

However are heavy, but it just makes you fitter.
Yep The Maxxis Minion is a great shout, I mix it up a bit with a Minion on the front and a High Roller 2 on the rear.
Funnily enough I’m looking for a high roller II, can’t find a 650b 2.6 anywhere

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Mr Scruff said:
Sure I read something about this recently but can’t find the thread.
wavey

Maybe from when I was asking in the ‘what have you bought thread’
I ended up with a selection plumping with Magic Mary up Front and Nobby Nic our back on my e-hardtail
It was suggested here that Magic Marys front AND back might be great for grip by draggy and sap efficiency
I have to say though I’ve questioned the Nics on sloppy mud for traction (something e-mobs are amazing at is ploughing through that stuff) and downhills in slippy / wet grass.
As winter progresses I’ll look to Mary at the back on mine, leaving Nics on the GF as she is sticking to trails more.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,695 posts

61 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Having tried all those suggested in the last couple of years I'd recommend a magic Mary on the front and leave the rear as is.

Minions are great all weather but not great in clay and chalk due to the ramped knobs. MMs have a slightly taller knob so grip better.

Michelin enduro are similar to minions re grip in the wet but wear a lot faster.

ETA... if you want just mud grip, then maxxis wet-screams are superb - but awful everywhere else. Very tall knobs so they roll on hard pack and feel sketchy pushing on. In the mud though.... Amazing. Again, just on the front though.

Edited by take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey on Saturday 3rd October 09:23

Justin S

3,655 posts

267 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Ridden the Chilterns for many years and the chalky claggy areas are just that and something that no tyre will make any difference . It does sharpen your bike controlling though.
I turn to my Stooge single speed for inter and currently will have its Michelin muds put back on this weekend , ready for the mud plugging from now on. They are pretty good tyres but are pretty soft and find the rear does loose its tread quite quickly but it does give decent traction , considering I am on a singlespeed where torque takes over from spin on the loose mucky stuff.
As for e-bikes. The wife nearly had a few tank slappers a few weeks ago when we found a wet sharp climb and its all about control than tyre. She went at it with too much power and the back just kept sliding around on her.
Its all good fun though , re-learning the trails , lines and grip levels. But for me the Michelins are a reasonable priced tyre , narrow to cut in and work well enough for gloop.

FA57 VWT

1,965 posts

49 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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I use Nobby’s year round, less pressure in the wet winter and higher in the summer if it’s dry.

Bathroom_Security

3,435 posts

123 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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High rollers were quite good in the wet.

I absolutely HATED maxxis DHF. They are like velcro, hard to pedal but didn't grip all that well. My buddy has them on his 29 2.3. And he has slowed down and looks like he's struggling up hills now.

Spent the summer on Magic mary/Rock Roller which was excellent in the dry.

Replacing the Rock Roller now its wet with a magic mary.

Utterly adore the magic mary. Orange compound with the heavy casing.

All been 27.5 2.6.


Bathroom_Security

3,435 posts

123 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Simes205 said:
Funnily enough I’m looking for a high roller II, can’t find a 650b 2.6 anywhere
Ive a pair that are 6 months old and not well used if you're desparate. I used them on a hard tail for a couple of months then bought a stumpjumper and bought into the myth of the maxxis DHF.

Also have a pair of DHF sitting about in 27.5 2.6.

Simes205

4,618 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Bathroom_Security said:
Simes205 said:
Funnily enough I’m looking for a high roller II, can’t find a 650b 2.6 anywhere
Ive a pair that are 6 months old and not well used if you're desparate. I used them on a hard tail for a couple of months then bought a stumpjumper and bought into the myth of the maxxis DHF.

Also have a pair of DHF sitting about in 27.5 2.6.
Ah thanks, found some on the ‘bay 10mins before reading this!

moonigan

2,160 posts

247 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Take a look at Maxxis Forekaster. I run them front and back in winter on my MTB but I also have a Magic Mary which goes on the front if its gnarly.

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Mr Scruff

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1,342 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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PushedDover said:
Kind of.

I think one of the posters nailed it earlier:

Justin S said:
Ridden the Chilterns for many years and the chalky claggy areas are just that and something that no tyre will make any difference
Reality is that I'm in my 40s and while I ride regularly I'm not sure I'm good enough to feel the benefits of kevlar beads and softer/harder compounds. I also do a lot of climbing so the accepted wisdom of a more slick tyre on the rear doesn't work so well for me.

That said, can't help but agree with MarcelM6 when he says:

MarcelM6 said:
I'm in clay country so a tyre that clears mud is quite important.

I don't know anything that will do really well on wet leaves and chalk.
Too much bloomin' choice tbh! Compounded by the fact that I'm an old fart, so when MBR are suggesting the Kenda Hellkat is a great budget choice at £50 I end up slightly choking on my cornflakes (own brand, of course).

Rain has help me this week by clearing the tyres pretty well, so hoping that I can stick with what I have meantime, just gets so frustrating when I lose grip at the top of a favorite climb. At the same time I think I'm going to keep an eye out for any bargains listed in the link provided, even though might be the wrong time of year for it.





SwissJonese

1,403 posts

181 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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England87 said:
I’m tempted by the Michelin enduro’s, has anyone got experience of them?
Michelin Wild Enduro came setup on my Mondraker - horrible tyres, no grip at all. I have quickly swapped back to Maxxis Minions which I also put on the kids full susp bikes, epic grip levels in all conditions and we are regular at bike park wales.

England87

1,418 posts

103 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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SwissJonese said:
England87 said:
I’m tempted by the Michelin enduro’s, has anyone got experience of them?
Michelin Wild Enduro came setup on my Mondraker - horrible tyres, no grip at all. I have quickly swapped back to Maxxis Minions which I also put on the kids full susp bikes, epic grip levels in all conditions and we are regular at bike park wales.
Do you think it was a compound issue at all? I normally run a Mary on the front and hans dampf on the rear