Road wheels ?

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J4CKO

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42,490 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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After mentioning my,

https://archive.trekbikes.com/us/en/2014/Trek/doma...

Had never missed a beat in six years and much abuse, it pinged a spoke today.

Do I replace the spoke or is it time for a new wheel(s)

I dont baby it and weigh sixteen stone, suspect its just six years and a fair few miles so not sure if other spoke will now go, the wheel went a bit wobbly afterwards.

Is it worth an upgrade, will I notice a difference, or do I just buy a spoke, or a rear wheel ? any suggestions as to what to get ?

jesusbuiltmycar

4,620 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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I would aim to get the spoke replaced but I would also want to check that the rims are not reaching end of life (rims do where and depending on how much mileage you have put on that bike they may be worn out)..

Do you have a local bike mechanic shop (which only fixes/services bikes? If so you should be able to get an honest opinion as to whether or not it is repairable.


J4CKO

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42,490 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
I would aim to get the spoke replaced but I would also want to check that the rims are not reaching end of life (rims do where and depending on how much mileage you have put on that bike they may be worn out)..

Do you have a local bike mechanic shop (which only fixes/services bikes? If so you should be able to get an honest opinion as to whether or not it is repairable.
I do my own spannering by and large, I need to sort a wheel out and will sort this one at my leisure, its a rear and the brake surfaces are ok, bearings ok and generally seems fine but think I need to get a new one, maybe a pair.

Got to finish a few miles of this cancer research thing I signed up for, so dont want to hang about too long.

Not bothered abut spending the money if its worth it.

HughG

3,600 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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A couple of anecdotes from me:

On my commuter I pinged 1 spoke on the R500 wheels., had it replaced, then another went. After 3 spokes had gone I gave up, had it been a better wheel I may have replaced all the spokes.

I also have a 2016 domane disc. I recently changed the wheels for some Reynolds Attack DB wheels, these are shallow profile carbon rims. The weight saving over the standard rims is considerable and much more tangible when climbing than the marginal aero gain of deep rims for the speeds I ride at.

We mindful of max rider weights when looking at wheels.

Barchettaman

6,474 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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It’s pretty easy.

Cassette off, tyre/tube and rim tape off.

Remove a matching spoke to the one that broke, and take it to the LBS.

Get one the same length, replace both.

Reassemble, true the wheel using the brake blocks and ride.

HughG

3,600 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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Barchettaman said:
true the wheel using the brake blocks
This is fine for a couple of spokes. If changing multiples it’s quite easy to end up with a straight wheel that is out of round, thankfully sorted by the LBS.

J4CKO

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206 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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Yeah, remember my Cannondale Bad Boy, spokes used to ping on a regular basis.

Found a pair of Mavic Aksiums, brand new with tyres and cassette, up at £190, have offered 150, need new tyres anyway.

So would end up with some half decent wheels, new tyres and some spare wheels.

frisbee

5,117 posts

116 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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My Trek wheels had aluminium spoke nipples. They just disintegrated as soon as I touched them.

anonymous-user

60 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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I've been riding RS501's for donkeys years (used to be called RS500) on the winter bike £84 a set. As a matter of fact they came stock on the CAAD10 and the Cannondale Supersix. Many thousands of miles on them, I'm 95kg..one spoke popped in ten years so just binned it.

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-pr-whls-r50...

I honestly can't tell the difference between them and Campag Zondas I now have on the supersix. I think there's a 175g difference between RS501 and the Askiums.

J4CKO

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206 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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Picking the Aksiums up for £150 tomorrow, needed to spend £80 or so on tyres as my Rubino Pro something or others are pretty knackered.

Will sort the others out as spares.

J4CKO

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42,490 posts

206 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mavic-wheelset-700c-/18...


Thats what I bought, they are tubeless no ?

Lady selling them says they aren't, but UST in Mavic parlance means tubeless I thought ?

Could they be tubeless but with tubes in or just she hasn't twigged they are tubeless tyres because they come already set up ? Or she just prefered tubes and put tubes in ?

HughG

3,600 posts

247 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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Yes UST means that they can be used tubeless. They probably have tubes in currently though.

okgo

39,144 posts

204 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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Your best bet is some hand-built wheels when you're 16 stone. More spokes, 32/28 be about right. Will last a lot longer, also when one goes, likely still rideable, and replacements avail everywhere unlike mavic spokes...

J4CKO

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42,490 posts

206 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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Got them, as new, popped the back tyre off, no tube in there.

No sign of any sealant either, felt a bit shiny but was expecting it to be a bit moist.

Have killed one spoke in six years so not too bad, got them now so will have to live with them, 28 mm tyres so was a bit concerned if it would fit on my bike but its fine

So, am I better putting tubes in ?

Have inflated the front one and it seems fine but not sure if the orgiginal owner has applied the sealant, still, pretty chuffed for £150.

g7jhp

6,992 posts

244 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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Got a set of DT Swiss wheels to replace more expensive Fulcrum Zero Racing Quattros.

The DTs are really nice, run well, light and solid plus you can get replacement hubs easily.

The Fulcrums were a nightmare taking 6 months for ceramic bearings to turn up and these seemed to be made of cheese.

J4CKO

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206 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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All set up, well apart from the brakes, just flung some tubes in.

bigdom

2,104 posts

151 months

Monday 21st September 2020
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okgo said:
Your best bet is some hand-built wheels when you're 16 stone. More spokes, 32/28 be about right. Will last a lot longer, also when one goes, likely still rideable, and replacements avail everywhere unlike mavic spokes...
Agree, all mine are hand-built. Never had an issue be that disc or rim, never had to true any rim as always built to do a specific job.

J4CKO

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42,490 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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bigdom said:
okgo said:
Your best bet is some hand-built wheels when you're 16 stone. More spokes, 32/28 be about right. Will last a lot longer, also when one goes, likely still rideable, and replacements avail everywhere unlike mavic spokes...
Agree, all mine are hand-built. Never had an issue be that disc or rim, never had to true any rim as always built to do a specific job.
I did have a stronger rim on my Specialized, but in this case, the idea is to drop a couple of stone and see how I go.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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J4CKO said:
bigdom said:
okgo said:
Your best bet is some hand-built wheels when you're 16 stone. More spokes, 32/28 be about right. Will last a lot longer, also when one goes, likely still rideable, and replacements avail everywhere unlike mavic spokes...
Agree, all mine are hand-built. Never had an issue be that disc or rim, never had to true any rim as always built to do a specific job.
I did have a stronger rim on my Specialized, but in this case, the idea is to drop a couple of stone and see how I go.
I have some Flo 30 wheels in their Clydesdale build, and they've been fine. I've also had 36 spoke wheels hand built in the past and they've done quite well too.

The Flo 30s are for sale, it's a shame I didn't see the post earlier...

J4CKO

Original Poster:

42,490 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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louiebaby said:
J4CKO said:
bigdom said:
okgo said:
Your best bet is some hand-built wheels when you're 16 stone. More spokes, 32/28 be about right. Will last a lot longer, also when one goes, likely still rideable, and replacements avail everywhere unlike mavic spokes...
Agree, all mine are hand-built. Never had an issue be that disc or rim, never had to true any rim as always built to do a specific job.
I did have a stronger rim on my Specialized, but in this case, the idea is to drop a couple of stone and see how I go.
I have some Flo 30 wheels in their Clydesdale build, and they've been fine. I've also had 36 spoke wheels hand built in the past and they've done quite well too.

The Flo 30s are for sale, it's a shame I didn't see the post earlier...
Ah well, sure someone will want them.

Went out on a 22 mile loop on the new wheels, liking the new tyres, 28 mm is a bit better for what I do and they have a nice round profile which seems to make cornering feel more natural and they give a lot of confidence. Wheels seem to cope better with me stood out of the saddle going up hill, no flex I could feel.

Quite a bargain as well.

Need a spoke for the other wheel, anyone know how to identify what is needed, as guessing its not just a 700c bladed spoke ? Be a shame to scrap them for the sake of a spoke.