Bike hauler - alternatives to a van?

Bike hauler - alternatives to a van?

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Dammit

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3,801 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I drove down to the Alps for the last couple of weeks with three bikes, two on the roof and one packed in the back, with all the luggage.

It was ok, but really I want all the bikes inside the vehicle for next time, which I suspect means a van, but I'd like something that drives like a performance car. Am I missing an AMG Vito, R32 T6, or Cosworth RS Transit?

My current cars are a C55 AMG estate and a 911, for context, and I'd like to be able to put two XL 29ers in the vehicle without taking wheels off.

What can people think of?

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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the VW transporter comes with a 199PS diesel engine, 7 speed DSG and 4motion 4wd, but only in the highline version

I think that is pretty much it as far as standard vans go

Here is one that's had a bit of a tart up https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202007251...

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st September 20:17

Tony1963

5,204 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Choose the van you like, and then have it tuned. Maybe mod the suspension too.

Or maybe see if anything American is available with a decent V8?

oddman

2,619 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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JPJPJP said:
the VW transporter comes with a 199PS diesel engine, 7 speed DSG and 4motion 4wd, but only in the highline version

I think that is pretty much it as far as standard vans go
Mate had one of these he had chipped to a claimed 270PS. Was pretty rapid.

I think you are better off just accepting it's a van. Spend money on sound deadening and other creature comforts.

loskie

5,581 posts

126 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I think you'll find a van is great to drive, especially a fancy van.

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,801 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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The last time I drove a Transporter (which was a while ago) it felt like I was perched on a bar-stool, hunched over the steering wheel. I'm wondering whether that was due to the bulkhead between my seat and the load area, and being 6'2".

I quite like the look of a Caravelle, and take the rearmost seats out/find somewhere to store them, or a Kombi maybe, but the Caravelle seems to have a better spec.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,049 posts

108 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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To be honest op, its a van and not a performance car so I would just accept that. Modifying it for performance and handling seems a bit of a fools errand.

You could look at a double cab pickup with a hard box on the back, they are fairly car like and fun in their own way.

ian in lancs

3,810 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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A few months back motorlands in Lytham had a cool van conversion. 1/3 cab, 1/3 kitchen and 1/3 motorbike garage/workshop complete with toolboxes, work stand, ramp, wheel holder. Looked awesome and I assume the intent was trackday/racing support vehicle. Think it was very based so above tuning suggestions fit. I can’t find it on their website but they’re nice guys and will probably know who did the conversion/ have pics low where it is or where you can get one from

Similar to this https://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/343/Mo...

Edited by ian in lancs on Tuesday 1st September 21:31

Dammit

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3,801 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I'd prefer something that's not a van, but can fit two big bikes in, plus luggage, and then cruise quite fast. I didn't dare go beyond 155kph on the autobahn with the bikes on the roof.

For example, if I stripped the decking out of the back of this, reckon I could get the bikes in the back plus luggage?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-R-Class-2007-H...

gazza285

10,090 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Dammit said:
The last time I drove a Transporter (which was a while ago) it felt like I was perched on a bar-stool, hunched over the steering wheel.
I’d rather drive a slow Transit than a fast Transporter, the driving position is much better and it feels much more planted with some weight in.

I’m not looking forward to losing it next May, as it is being replaced with a Nissan NV300.

smifffymoto

4,728 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I have a lwb 120hp Renault Trafic and I love it.
If you have a fancy van thieves will think you have fancy stuff inside.

oddman

2,619 posts

258 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Dammit said:
The last time I drove a Transporter (which was a while ago) it felt like I was perched on a bar-stool, hunched over the steering wheel. I'm wondering whether that was due to the bulkhead between my seat and the load area, and being 6'2".

I quite like the look of a Caravelle, and take the rearmost seats out/find somewhere to store them, or a Kombi maybe, but the Caravelle seems to have a better spec.
I've got a T6 Kombi so no bulkhead

I'm 6'1". Plenty of space and really comfy in 'captains' chairs. The passenger legroom is massive. Those seats are 2:1 spilt so can take 1 seat out and put in a dog cage with plenty of room for 2 adults leaves a massive 9 cu metre boot.

It's half way through conversion to a 'day van' for biking skiing fishing etc. and with the insulation and sound deadening fitted, it is a very nice place to be. We moved to this from a big estate with roof box and bike rack - I wish we'd done it 10 years ago when the kids were still small. It takes about as long to pack the van for a trip as it used to take to pack the roof box.

ian in lancs

3,810 posts

204 months

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,801 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Race vans are cool, but I'm too old and too soft for them - I'd just stay in a hotel.

What I'm after is the smallest and most car-like vehicle that could get four people, their luggage and bikes to for e.g. Morzine, where the bikes are full-suspension 29ers.

I suspect the answer is a T5 or T6 Kombi with either two of the bikes on the rear hatch, or the luggage in a big roof box.

MetalMatters

480 posts

55 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Transporter Kombi all the way, lwb, 4-Motion, DSG, diesel with 250bhp, insulated, sound proofed etc.

I use this as my daily, I have other toys but the van gets the most use.

We’re off to Forest of Dean later, 4 people, 4 bikes, 4 chairs, change of clothes, tools/spares, drinks, snacks and still plenty of space.

Took it to Le Mans last year and sat at 100+ for most of the way, slept in it, attached an awning for my mates, filled full of beer and bbq stuff, clothes etc.



Edited by MetalMatters on Wednesday 2nd September 08:53

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Watching with interest. Two kids and a dog, and a love of the outdoors, either cycling, surfing or canoeing. (Probably paddle-boarding next.)

LWB VW Combi seems the best bet, with a hatch rather than twin doors so you can get changed under it.

tendown

89 posts

137 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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We've got an old vivaro crew cab which is getting on a bit for family transport but I love that I can always take my bikes away without any hassle so also interested in this topic.

Has anyone tried a 2015+ Mercedes Vito, there are plenty of 160hp 7G auto crew cabs, seem equivalent to the transporter kombi but for similar or less money.

They seem to be another alternative to "builders" van without the vw scene tax?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Isn't the Vito a bit smaller? It felt more like a big MPV

I drove the minibus version about 500 miles last year, and found it very pleasant. (Although the infotainment was from the stone-ages, it was on the rental spec so may have been improved now.)

The VW Combi I had a couple of months ago felt bigger in the cab, more medium van vs the Vito's big MPV feel.

I've done similar miles in both, (c.500) and they were both pretty reasonable to drive. In the VW the 500 miles were all in one hit, stopping only to drop off the cargo, have a pee and fill with fuel.

rs4al

950 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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JPJPJP said:
the VW transporter comes with a 199PS diesel engine, 7 speed DSG and 4motion 4wd, but only in the highline version

I think that is pretty much it as far as standard vans go

Here is one that's had a bit of a tart up https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202007251...

Edited by JPJPJP on Tuesday 1st September 20:17
£50k+. For a van, jeezus I’m genuinely shocked !

P-Jay

10,738 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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rs4al said:
£50k+. For a van, jeezus I’m genuinely shocked !
Crazy isn't it, if you want a really fancy one like a California, that'll be £70k by the time you spec it up.

It's a terrible investment I suppose, they're the slowest depreciating new vehicle in the UK.