Lightweight canyon

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louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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Canyon bring an ultra-lightweight version of the Ultimate every few years, it's always quite impressive!

Mastodon2

13,889 posts

171 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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That is amazing.

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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That’s a hell of a lot of bike for the money. I’m sorely tempted to go for the Campag Super Record EPS equipped version. I’ll have an Italian, and a German with Italian bits in the stable, what’s the worst that could happen?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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BrundanBianchi said:
That’s a hell of a lot of bike for the money. I’m sorely tempted to go for the Campag Super Record EPS equipped version. I’ll have an Italian, and a German with Italian bits in the stable, what’s the worst that could happen?
Available through the Green Cycle Initiative too...

Go on...

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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louiebaby said:
Available through the Green Cycle Initiative too...
Really? Blimey that’s almost too good to ignore

louiebaby said:
Go on...
Shipping on the one in my size starts on the 7th September. That’s fine by me. I just need to decide on group set. I’ve already got one SR EPS disc, 2 would be a bit indulgent.


BobSaunders

3,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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But but but Disc brakes!

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Not sure this is news

The pro-teams don't race on sub 4kg bikes or (generally speaking) the components fitted to them. The exception to this is Adam Hansen who makes his own weight-weenie carbon moulded shoes, and sometimes teams will use wheels from non-sponsors badged up with sponsor logos, especially on mountain days etc

The proteams use the stock bikes which are about 6.5kg as pictured and then glue lead weights on the inside of the frame near the bottom bracket to bring the bike above 6.8Kg to meet the UCI lower limit

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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itsnotarace said:
Not sure this is news

The pro-teams don't race on sub 4kg bikes or (generally speaking) the components fitted to them. The exception to this is Adam Hansen who makes his own weight-weenie carbon moulded shoes, and sometimes teams will use wheels from non-sponsors badged up with sponsor logos, especially on mountain days etc

The proteams use the stock bikes which are about 6.5kg as pictured and then glue lead weights on the inside of the frame near the bottom bracket to bring the bike above 6.8Kg to meet the UCI lower limit

Some teams deliberately use heavier components as well. Ultegra Cassettes weigh more than Dura Ace for example, so you’ll often see what appears to be a full DA Di2 groupyd bike, actually using an Ultegra cassette.


itsnotarace

4,685 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Using lead weights is more common as you can place the weight where you need it on the bike. Low down and in the middle best for stability. On flat courses it wont make any difference of course except for additional rotating mass (less energy efficient). Ultegra cassettes are also much cheaper when you are buying a few hundred per race season so the extra for DA is not worth the effort

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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BobSaunders said:
But but but Disc brakes!
Horrible looking things on a road bike, but if you ever want to sell the bike on, worth considering because resale values tend to be higher on disc braked road bikes. There are other advantages to disc brake frames as well, they use thru axles, rather than relatively flimsy Q.R. skewers, which add a bit of rigidity, and are generally considered to be safer. The frame clearances are greater as well, so you could use wider tyres if you wanted.

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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I don’t know whether it’s an urban myth, but I was told that filling the seat post with water and then freezing it happened. As it made the bike legal at weigh in, then the ice melted and left the bike lighter.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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BrundanBianchi said:
I don’t know whether it’s an urban myth, but I was told that filling the seat post with water and then freezing it happened. As it made the bike legal at weigh in, then the ice melted and left the bike lighter.
I take it they weigh the bikes after a race as well.

I know when the Boat Race crews used to weigh in, they would all drink as much as they could manage to intimidate the other side, but that's a different game entirely.

Mastodon2

13,889 posts

171 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Isn't the newsorthiness the very fact that it is below the UCI weight limit? Reading into the situation, it sounds like the UCI's approach to akin to the FIA saying that Formula 1 cars must only use drum brakes to stop the smaller teams from falling behind in competitiveness.

When such "advanced" technology is now available for such relatively low cost, it seems almost absurd to have such a restrictive weight limit on the bike. I understand they wish to preserve the "purity" as it were of the racing, but times and technologies have moved on.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Mastodon2 said:
Isn't the newsorthiness the very fact that it is below the UCI weight limit?.
Not really as AX Lightness have offered a 4.8Kg bike for consumer retail sale (eg not a show bike) since 2016

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/behold-the-4-8kg-ax...

Cheers

BrundanBianchi

1,106 posts

51 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Mastodon2 said:
I understand they wish to preserve the "purity" as it were of the racing.
Cycling and “purity of racing” aren’t really known as particularly good bedfellows.