Bike Repair Voucher

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Drumroll

3,933 posts

126 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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But it is not free, is it? I t comes from taxes that you and I pay. It is aimed at getting those that have bikes they don't use, back cycling. It isn't aimed at those with their £1000+ frames etc

MrBarry123

6,038 posts

127 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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My LBS hasn’t opted in to this, presumably because a) they’re busy enough at the moment already and b) they don’t want a load of people arriving with completely ruined bikes and expecting £50 to be enough to fix everything that needs fixing.

CooperS

4,531 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Went to apply for one ticket and system says that all vouchers are gone in this first wave.

No mention when the next wave will be.

Should of woken up at 4am

bristolbaron

5,040 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Qualifying for £50 by ticking a box seems like utter nonsense, this magic money forest is getting bigger and bigger.

Tony1963

5,221 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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CooperS said:
Went to apply for one ticket and system says that all vouchers are gone in this first wave.

No mention when the next wave will be.

Should of woken up at 4am
Should have tried at 11.45pm last night when it went live. I did, at one second past 11.45pm, and the website had already crashed.

Another Tory failure to add to the list.

Lovey1

457 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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You can't even see what retailers are participating at the moment. System seems chaotic and ill thought through

anonymous-user

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60 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I tried at about midnight - no joy

CooperS

4,531 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I agree it'll be keen cyclists who will lap this up abd put it towards a service. Cause let's be honest what do you get in terms of a service at a indy bike shop for £50.

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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It does seem rather daft - and for abuse.

Not being funny , but those with 'forks leaking' are likely to not actually 'need' a £50 voucher.

It should be used to get inoperable bikes on the road for those that do not currently ride.
Those that abuse the system to essentially take from this sector need shaming in the way that dole cheats are IMHO

CooperS

4,531 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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PushedDover said:
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It does seem rather daft - and for abuse.

Not being funny , but those with 'forks leaking' are likely to not actually 'need' a £50 voucher.

It should be used to get inoperable bikes on the road for those that do not currently ride.
Those that abuse the system to essentially take from this sector need shaming in the way that dole cheats are IMHO
But technically its not the same thing at all. Yes morally it's questionable. But so was people over 70 getting heating allowance and TV licence for free when they own multiple properties whilst having a bumper pension to fall back on. Least those things are now means tested or on the way out.

The rules are non existent so you can't blame people for taking advantage. I guess those who set it up realised the cost of making sure it went to the right hands far outweighed those who have a £2k+ bike in the shed and will use the voucher to help with the yearly service.

untakenname

5,023 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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This is good timing as I've got tubular tyres on one of my road bikes and changing them is a PITA so they've been in the shed whilst I've been using my winter wheels.
Are you expected to call around bike shops to see if they are accepting of the vouchers or is there an easier way?

I wouldn't trust Halfords with the task as taking aged adhesive off carbon rims takes a long time and wouldn't want them damaged by solvents.

Drumroll said:
It isn't aimed at those with their £1000+ frames etc
Why not? I pay £870 a year in VED and have a few bikes that I haven't used in a while so I feel that I'd be better placed at accepting a voucher rather than someone who if they don't cycle probably gets a bus anyway.


petemurphy

10,215 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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utter waste of taxpayers money - prob cost more to administer than the actual vouchers

JulianHJ

8,785 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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CooperS said:
Went to apply for one ticket and system says that all vouchers are gone in this first wave.

No mention when the next wave will be.

Should of woken up at 4am
It was pretty broken from the start, I looked at about 6:30 and it was down, then looked at one of the down detector sites and there were comments timed before midnight saying it wasn't responding.

Gareth79

7,973 posts

252 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I believe there are rules that the voucher can only be used for maintenance and minor parts to ensure a bike can be used safely, so an annual service would be fine, also presumably stuff like a brake overhaul with new pads and cables etc.

Allowing existing recreational cyclists to use it is within the spirit of the rules really, since pretty much any type of riding is exercise, even though the thrust of the scheme is to encourage commuting. It would be impossible to police restricting it to commuters, eg. the same way the "cycle to work" vouchers are supposed to be used "mainly" for commuting, but people buy bicycles through it which are never used as such.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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In the olden days pre-2020.. there was a stigma attached to getting anything for ‘free’
But now half the country are on benefits. Be it furlough/self employed money tree/mortgage holidays, we are used to being given stuff.
Cycle vouchers just another on the long list!

Justin S

3,654 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Lots of people will turn up at Halfords with piles of junk and expect a complete rebuild for the £50. The Halfords will do a deal of £50 off a new bike with the voucher to scrap the bike. So, Halfords will pick up a sale, old bike goes to Africa and Jo Bloggs rides into the sunset.
Personally I have never let Halfords touch my bike after they 'rebuilt' my suspension forks and didnt put the bushings back into the legs. That was a long time ago, but it made me work quick to learn to do bikes and tool myself up for it.
Remember going into a local bike shop and someone picked up an mtb in for a service. New brake and gear cables, splodge of oil £125 ....................

At the end of the day, we are changing out transport system. This is the summer time dont forget and I cannot imagine people wanting to commute in rain and darkness through the winter, so god knows how they will get to work in those times, if public transport is still considered the virus's cave. I have cycled to work for over 12 years and the amount of bikes I see if virtually none on my short journey. Perhaps a couple here and there.
If I do see an increase in the future , it will be even more hate from dog walkers who 'own' the cycle ways with their super long leads they use smile

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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It does seem that morals are less important if taking government money (aka ours as taxpayers) which is a shame.

I also fail to understand wtf it has to do with the VED paid.

anonymous-user

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60 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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PushedDover said:
It does seem that morals are less important if taking government money (aka ours as taxpayers) which is a shame.

I also fail to understand wtf it has to do with the VED paid.
PushedDover on the Eat Out to Help Out thread said:
13 places in 5 miles - and we live in the sticks.
Happy days

I'm confused. Are you saying it's morally suspect to accept the offer of subsidised bike maintenance, but not half price food for a month?

PushedDover

5,888 posts

59 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Nice bit of sleuthing rolleyes
The likelihood of me using on a mon to wed voucher scheme to save a tenner is about 1 in 10.

The fact that local businesses, my local businesses, are doing all they can to stay afloat and engage with customers is ‘happy days’. Local economies in these towns in the sticks rely on people getting out and about, spending locally.

Conversely when I read how McD’s are now hanging on to the scheme, whilst we are also to start as a nation a health drive is abhorrent.

None of this is relevant to the thread- but you feel it needs airing?


To justify your own actions or morals- you shouldn’t have to seek out others actions as a quasi-validation.

Edited by PushedDover on Thursday 30th July 07:14