Mountain Bike Tyres - Road and Bridleway / Light Trail

Mountain Bike Tyres - Road and Bridleway / Light Trail

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TheLurker

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1,407 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I tend to cycle mainky bridlewsys and light forest cross coutry, with road work in between. I'm currently using Continental X trail which seem ok, but wondering if there are any other tyres which are worth looking at? Not costing more than my car tyres is a big bonus!

option click

1,173 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Schwalbe X-One Allround are supposed to be good.
I fitted a pair to my Crux yesterday.

Your Dad

1,995 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Panaracer GravelKing SK or Schwalbe G-One

cml24

1,436 posts

153 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I use Schwalbe Cityjets, left over from using my bike a university years ago.

They're nearly slick, 1.5" wide. I've found them more than capable on bridleways, similar to the photo below. I wouldn't really want any tread as I probably spend 75% of my time on the road.


mikeiow

5,951 posts

136 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I'd have thought the chunkier off road ones would sap a bit of energy on road - which is more important to you?

jackthelad1984

838 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Just fitted a set of continental double fighter iii to my hardtail as i thought id try using it to cycle to work now I have a new full sus for off road duties, very impressed with them on the few rides I have done, much easier than the maxxis ardents that were on it. Very cheap aswell, think I got them for about £30 the pair from tredz in 27.5.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,163 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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I've just fitted a Schwalbe Racing Ray (front) and Nobby Nic (rear) to my Pace RC200 F6 and so far, I've been really pleased with them. I'm riding on what I imagine will similar surfaces to you; mainly forest trails (with some loose surface stones/gravel), some single track but hardly any road use. They roll really well on all surfaces but provide great traction on short, steep uphill sections. My bike feels so much faster smilewoohoo I do find them quite twitchy (which I like - the bike is quite lively anyway) but they give me confidence at the same time. I've never felt like I'm running out of grip, even on some tricky, fast, loose sections of trail.

I haven't done much riding in the wet with them so can't comment on what they'll be like when it gets slippery.

The only thing I don't like is the name...Nobby Nic rolleyesnonosilly

Squadrone Rosso

2,873 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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I fitted these to my 29er MTB. Really happy with them as a good allrounder.


yellowjack

17,208 posts

172 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Pffft!

Tread is over-rated. I've been doing quite a few byway and bridleway excursions of late on my road bike with 700x25c Continental GP 4 Seasons tyres. Nowt more than a wet weather road tyre really. OK, they don't cope well with really loose surfaces, and if it were muddy I'd be screwed. But they ran OK last night on wet grass on a bridleway 125 metres ASL between Holworth and West Chaldon in Dorset. I sometimes give it a blast on the Blue Trail (family friendly) MTB route in Moors Valley Country Park. Unless you're blasting along natural single-track it's as much about technique and mechanical sympathy as it is about the latest, greatest tyre tech.

Having said that, if you want to go fast on the byways and bridleways, then yes, I'd invest in decent MTB tyres. Schwalbe Racing Ralphs are a good summer tyre with fairly small knobbly bits. And my son rides with Schwalbe Marathon tyres in 26x1.5 inch flavour. His main use is the River Stour path to get to and from his archery club. They're on a sort of "shared" bike that used to be mine, then became his Uni commute bike, and now just fills a gap when we want to ride somewhere where you wouldn't want to lock an expensive bike and leave it out of sight. Pretty much bullet-proof in terms of punctures. Three years of Uni commuting in Reading, and all sorts of riding here in Bournemouth too, and no complaints in terms of reliability

Not sure about availability in MTB tyres sizes, but on my "gravel" bike I run Bontrager LT2 'Expert' tyres in 700x38c size. Small tread, enough to keep traction through most terrain, but OK on tarmac roads too. I've raced on those a few times (at the Battle On The Beach event) and not found them wanting. Not as puncture resistant as the Schwalbe Marathons, but a good deal lighter and punctures haven't been a recurring issue for me with them. Not sure how much help all that is to you, but three ways I've dealt with the issue of the "what tyre?" question...


CharlieAlphaMike

1,163 posts

111 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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yellowjack said:
Pffft!

Tread is over-rated. I've been doing quite a few byway and bridleway excursions of late on my road bike with 700x25c Continental GP 4 Seasons tyres. Nowt more than a wet weather road tyre really. OK, they don't cope well with really loose surfaces, and if it were muddy I'd be screwed.
So tread is not over-rated at all then scratchchin It's actually quite relevant IMHO

WindyCommon

3,469 posts

245 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Doublefighters (now on version III I think) have been a good all-round choice for roads and paths for many years. Their design seems to work better than other tyres with smooth centres and lugged edges, perhaps because their profile is well shaped. If it gets a little wet and soft the lugs do offer more grip than the likes of the Schwalbes mentioned a few times. I think they are a good choice.

yellowjack

17,208 posts

172 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
yellowjack said:
Pffft!

Tread is over-rated. I've been doing quite a few byway and bridleway excursions of late on my road bike with 700x25c Continental GP 4 Seasons tyres. Nowt more than a wet weather road tyre really. OK, they don't cope well with really loose surfaces, and if it were muddy I'd be screwed.
So tread is not over-rated at all then scratchchin It's actually quite relevant IMHO
Quite. But here's the thing. Most people don't ride bridleways, etc, when it's wet. So for most people, especially the average 'casual' rider, tread really is overrated. Especially for the amount of time you are reliant on it for grip. For anyone choosing new tyres, I'd say get a really good idea of what proportion of your average ride you are on terrain that really does require a treaded tyre. I think the majority would be surprised at how versatile a smoother tyre really is...

GravelBen

15,850 posts

236 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Get some minions rofl

Pieman68

4,264 posts

240 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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I'm similar - a reasonable amount of road with some light trails and canal towpath thrown in

When I bought the bike it came with Schwalbe Landcruisers - I find them pretty decent and the difference in rolling resistance against my old mountain bike with knobblies on was huge

Probably not the best outright tyre but for my use and the amount of time I spend on the bike I think they're a reasonable option

Bathroom_Security

3,435 posts

123 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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GravelBen said:
Get some minions rofl
lol

Just swapped my DHF/DHF out because they are like velcro in terms of rolling ability yet dont seem to dig in that well. They arent bad, but I dont get the hype

Just chucked on a Magic Mary up front with a Rock Razor on the rear. Much better, rock razor is a little sketchy in brief moments as expected but the MM digs in really well. Fairly fast rolling setup. Will be replacing the RR with another MM come winter.




I'd say the OP wants a fast rolling XC tire, something with a bit more bite though - Bontrager XR4?


CharlieAlphaMike

1,163 posts

111 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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yellowjack said:
CharlieAlphaMike said:
yellowjack said:
Pffft!

Tread is over-rated. I've been doing quite a few byway and bridleway excursions of late on my road bike with 700x25c Continental GP 4 Seasons tyres. Nowt more than a wet weather road tyre really. OK, they don't cope well with really loose surfaces, and if it were muddy I'd be screwed.
So tread is not over-rated at all then scratchchin It's actually quite relevant IMHO
Quite. But here's the thing. Most people don't ride bridleways, etc, when it's wet. So for most people, especially the average 'casual' rider, tread really is overrated. Especially for the amount of time you are reliant on it for grip. For anyone choosing new tyres, I'd say get a really good idea of what proportion of your average ride you are on terrain that really does require a treaded tyre. I think the majority would be surprised at how versatile a smoother tyre really is...
I agree of course. It's all down to what your 'average' ride is. I've just put new tyres on my Pace RC200 F6; opting for Schwalbe Racing Ray (front) and Nobby Nic (rear). The Ray has, in my opinion, very little tread but it grips really well on the loose forest trail surfaces which account for my 'average' ride. I guess tyre technology/compounds etc have come a long way in recent years.

I often question whether the trend for Downhill MTB's has become more of a 'fashion' rather than a need which has, in turn, lead to unnecessarily heavily treaded Downhill specific tyres?

cml24

1,436 posts

153 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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yellowjack said:
CharlieAlphaMike said:
yellowjack said:
Pffft!

Tread is over-rated. I've been doing quite a few byway and bridleway excursions of late on my road bike with 700x25c Continental GP 4 Seasons tyres. Nowt more than a wet weather road tyre really. OK, they don't cope well with really loose surfaces, and if it were muddy I'd be screwed.
So tread is not over-rated at all then scratchchin It's actually quite relevant IMHO
Quite. But here's the thing. Most people don't ride bridleways, etc, when it's wet. So for most people, especially the average 'casual' rider, tread really is overrated. Especially for the amount of time you are reliant on it for grip. For anyone choosing new tyres, I'd say get a really good idea of what proportion of your average ride you are on terrain that really does require a treaded tyre. I think the majority would be surprised at how versatile a smoother tyre really is...
I certainly was surprised a little while ago. Having bought 'hybrid type' tyres for a commuter with 5% bridleway the rest road. Going back to the cityjets, and riding bridleways, wet grass, rocky descents etc, it's only really loose shingle or aggregate that gets them unstuck. Deep mud won't work either!

Everything else is quite easy really. I've done the easy route around the Olympic MTB track at Hadleigh with them as well and a rigid front fork.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,163 posts

111 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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GravelBen said:
Get some minions rofl
I've got a Minion:



...you can't have it laugh