New bikes no pedals why?
Discussion
Just got another new bike N+1 of course and as usual no pedals.
Now I can’t think of any reason why they can’t fit pedals from the main group set,
Shimano 105 so why not supply them, it will probably be claimed that it’s a free choice but really how many choices especially road bikes.
Now why don’t they leave off supplying a saddle? Think about it how often do you change the saddle, I don’t think any of my bikes are on the original saddle but they are all on pedals that generally match the group set.
Just spent £90 on saddle of choice and sold OEM saddle value £65 for £45 but I’ve also had to buy pedals and bottle cage.
Soon spend £150/200 to make bike rideable.
I suppose the only way to avoid this is to go bespoke then you’ve no complaints on kit.
Takes the edge off new bike but I’m still a happy bunny.
Your thoughts gentlemen?
Now I can’t think of any reason why they can’t fit pedals from the main group set,
Shimano 105 so why not supply them, it will probably be claimed that it’s a free choice but really how many choices especially road bikes.
Now why don’t they leave off supplying a saddle? Think about it how often do you change the saddle, I don’t think any of my bikes are on the original saddle but they are all on pedals that generally match the group set.
Just spent £90 on saddle of choice and sold OEM saddle value £65 for £45 but I’ve also had to buy pedals and bottle cage.
Soon spend £150/200 to make bike rideable.
I suppose the only way to avoid this is to go bespoke then you’ve no complaints on kit.
Takes the edge off new bike but I’m still a happy bunny.
Your thoughts gentlemen?
Pedals are fairly personal, easy to fit. Hence i would rather buy one without pedals, than buy one and have to throw out the shimano spds because i have crank bros on all my other bikes. This is mainly so i can use the same shoes/cleats with all bikes.
Edited by VFX_Artist on Saturday 20th June 18:26
As an aside, historically not providing pedals allowed retailers to avoid conforming to bike safety regulations. Though this was changed in 2010 by amending the definition of “bicycle” such that missing bits like pedals didn’t matter - it was still a bike and retailers had to conform to the regs.
Most decent bikes dont come with pedals as a/ personal preference b/ cheaper to sell the bike without additional components c/ reflector regulations and clipless road pedals dont really work .
But saying that , my wifes LIV EB came with reflector flat resin pedals , which are still shrink wrapped up , as she went had a set of SPD's to go on anyway.
SPD's got round it at one point by having a resin insert fitted / latched into the pedal a few years ago , so converting them to one sides spd and one sided flat pedal, but that all added to the cost of the bike for an item that invariably ended up in landfill.
But saying that , my wifes LIV EB came with reflector flat resin pedals , which are still shrink wrapped up , as she went had a set of SPD's to go on anyway.
SPD's got round it at one point by having a resin insert fitted / latched into the pedal a few years ago , so converting them to one sides spd and one sided flat pedal, but that all added to the cost of the bike for an item that invariably ended up in landfill.
Justin S said:
SPD's got round it at one point by having a resin insert fitted / latched into the pedal a few years ago , so converting them to one sides spd and one sided flat pedal, but that all added to the cost of the bike for an item that invariably ended up in landfill.
You can still get them - probably useful for commuters to get reflectors on their pedals(at the expense of double-sided pedals), or as a backup for riding SPDs in normal shoes:https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/pedals-cleats/shimano-...
Gio G said:
I suspect it is only bikes over a certain value that do not come with pedals? I always fit my own pedals and saddle..
G
Yes lower end bikes come with pedals. Most mid range and high end bikes are going to be ridden by people using clipless pedals so why waste money putting something on that will get immediately junked. Saddles yeah a lot of people change but not so much as pedals I dont think.G
Its the same why direct drive trainers often dont come with a cassette. You'd be well chuffed if you run campy and your £700+ trainer comes with a Shim 105 cassette.
Just got a new bike and immediately replaced saddle (split nose), stem (+1cm) and bars (+2cm carbon). Getting these right turns a good bike into a great bike. Pedals are probably the next most personal choice after saddles.
If you put a poll on here asking which pedals posters prefer, I bet even the most popular wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the share.
If you put a poll on here asking which pedals posters prefer, I bet even the most popular wouldn't take more than 1/3 of the share.
leyorkie said:
Just out of interest Wiggle list 89 items under pedals that’s road and MTB
They list 444 items under saddles.
In the group that I ride, around 8 regularly, we’re all on Shimano pedals but no two saddles are the same.
Aye. But a lot of the variation in saddles can be accounted for in colour, width, and clamp rail material. And whichever one is on your bike, you can park your butt on it and get the bike home. No saddle could mean a trip to A&E.They list 444 items under saddles.
In the group that I ride, around 8 regularly, we’re all on Shimano pedals but no two saddles are the same.
Pedals, though? So many variations on connection system (cleat type) for a start. I've got four different cleat systems on various shoes/bikes. Look 'Keo'. Look 'Delta', Shimano SPD-SL, and Shimano SPD. So I have to be careful which shoes I take when I put a bike in the car. If a new bike was supplied with Speedplay pedals I'd have nothing to clip onto them. (I'd also be a happy bunny because I'd have a brand new set of Speedplays to sell on eBay
)And all that is before you get started on which "spec" pedals you want. Most committed riders like something better than "most basic", but a bike manufacturer won't be spending out on Dura-ace level pedals. You'd get 105 level at best. And the only real difference is materials and weight - the cleats are the same.
Most bike shops will chuck on some resin flat pedals from the spares bucket if you ask them to, just to get a bike home. But you're unlikely to get even an entry-level metal flat pedal unless you are buying from a company where you spec your own bike to be built to order. Any off-the-peg bike will have flat resin pedals, or very cheap DMR knock-offs at best.
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