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Hi all, just considering upgrading the groupset on my Pinarello FP5. At the moment I have the old Ultegra (6600 ?), gear cables exit at the side of the shifters. I am looking at Ultegra R8000. Seems like the best deal is with Chain Reaction/Wiggle (Same company) although Merlin cycles have a better choice of options available.. Chain Reaction list as Grey, Merlin list as black, does anyone know if there are two colours as I thought there was only one, a gunmetal colour. My other concern (with the quite a lot cheaper deal at CR) is no cables supplied and come in bags not boxed.Any thoughts welcome especially from anyone who has bought from these two suppliers. Cheers.
JPJPJP said:
What are you going to do with boxes?
From what I've gathered boxed items come complete with proper cables etc but bits in bubble wrap plastic bags don't. It may just be my paranoia, but also I get suspicious as to why would things be not packaged properly, perhaps found to be slightly substandard after QC.monty999 said:
From what I've gathered boxed items come complete with proper cables etc but bits in bubble wrap plastic bags don't. It may just be my paranoia, but also I get suspicious as to why would things be not packaged properly, perhaps found to be slightly substandard after QC.
OE-issue, probably. Bits supplied to the bike manufactures (well, assemblers) who aren’t interested in packaging, instructions etc. Sometimes makes for cheaper bits. Merlin bikes and to a lesser extent CRC use to do this a lot back in the day.FWIW R8000 is v nice.
Jimbo. said:
OE-issue, probably. Bits supplied to the bike manufactures (well, assemblers) who aren’t interested in packaging, instructions etc. Sometimes makes for cheaper bits. Merlin bikes and to a lesser extent CRC use to do this a lot back in the day.
FWIW R8000 is v nice.
Thanks Jimbo, that makes sense now. I just couldn't see why Shimano would want to cheapen the selling price for punters by just not packaging completely. Couldn't see Apple doing the same with their latest I-phone , "100 quid cheaper if you don't want the unboxing experience" !! CRC it is then £130 cheaper even if I do have to buy the cables.FWIW R8000 is v nice.
Thanks again, and I have gathered that it is engineered very well.
It is nice gear. Boxed = retail, bagged = commercial and is the same kit without instructions and other bits that bike builders buy in big tins separately (cable ends for instance)
Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
JPJPJP said:
It is nice gear. Boxed = retail, bagged = commercial and is the same kit without instructions and other bits that bike builders buy in big tins separately (cable ends for instance)
Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
Yes, thanks, I will have a BB spare for my winter bike as the groupset comes with English thread and mine is Italian so I'll have to get that separately. Cheers, just awaiting stock of 172.5 52/36.Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
Would you happen to know if the rear mech outer cable is a special specific one and can I buy that separately if not supplied in the bagged version. I have seen that it is supplied with the boxed rear mech. Otherwise would ordinary outer work ok ?
I’m looking at my 8000 Ultegra crankset with a 105 crankset (which is definitely black) just behind it. The Ultegra is not quite as black, it’s like the darkest grey used on anything ever, but not quite black.
It is definitely darker than the lovely gunmetal grey colour of the previous 6800 series Ultegra.
This is quite possibly the most useless pointless post in the history of the internet but it’s slightly more engaging than doing a workout.
I can’t even recover it by answering your cabling query as I haven’t got a clue. I’d be very surprised if you couldn’t order all the bits separately though.
It is definitely darker than the lovely gunmetal grey colour of the previous 6800 series Ultegra.
This is quite possibly the most useless pointless post in the history of the internet but it’s slightly more engaging than doing a workout.
I can’t even recover it by answering your cabling query as I haven’t got a clue. I’d be very surprised if you couldn’t order all the bits separately though.
monty999 said:
JPJPJP said:
It is nice gear. Boxed = retail, bagged = commercial and is the same kit without instructions and other bits that bike builders buy in big tins separately (cable ends for instance)
Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
Yes, thanks, I will have a BB spare for my winter bike as the groupset comes with English thread and mine is Italian so I'll have to get that separately. Cheers, just awaiting stock of 172.5 52/36.Check you tick the right boxes for bottom bracket thread, cassette size, chainring combo and crank length
Would you happen to know if the rear mech outer cable is a special specific one and can I buy that separately if not supplied in the bagged version. I have seen that it is supplied with the boxed rear mech. Otherwise would ordinary outer work ok ?
Cables should be included. If not then something like this is going to do it just fine and it's a tenner
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-road-gear-cable-s...
Get some really good cable cutters and here's a tip I picked up from somewhere: before you cut it, put a bit of runny superglue on the inner wire where you are going to cut it. I normally do about 1.5cm. A few drops of glue is enough and angle it so the glue runs down into the bit you are going to cut off if there is any excess. Let the glue dry and then when you make the cut, there is almost zero chance of the cable strands unwinding.
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/shimano-road-gear-cable-s...
Get some really good cable cutters and here's a tip I picked up from somewhere: before you cut it, put a bit of runny superglue on the inner wire where you are going to cut it. I normally do about 1.5cm. A few drops of glue is enough and angle it so the glue runs down into the bit you are going to cut off if there is any excess. Let the glue dry and then when you make the cut, there is almost zero chance of the cable strands unwinding.
Thank you very much Jimbo and JP. Some good advice and information, will definitely use the superglue idea, cheers.
MiseryStreak, you are probably better off going in a dark room to do some engaging workout and staying away from pointless forums where people seek advice from supposedly like minded enthusiasts.
MiseryStreak, you are probably better off going in a dark room to do some engaging workout and staying away from pointless forums where people seek advice from supposedly like minded enthusiasts.
monty999 said:
Thank you very much Jimbo and JP. Some good advice and information, will definitely use the superglue idea, cheers.
MiseryStreak, you are probably better off going in a dark room to do some engaging workout and staying away from pointless forums where people seek advice from supposedly like minded enthusiasts.
I think you've taken the post from MiseryStreak the wrong way. Have a beer and chill.MiseryStreak, you are probably better off going in a dark room to do some engaging workout and staying away from pointless forums where people seek advice from supposedly like minded enthusiasts.
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