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Collecting a new to me Canyon Urban 7.0 this weekend, and seeking lock recommendations.
Bike will be in a shed with bike posts on a concrete base.
Thinking Abus Granit xplus 540 D lock for out and about use plus a chain to leave at home.
Any recommendations for a chain lock or improvement on the Abus D lock? Bike value (to me) is £1k.
Bike will be in a shed with bike posts on a concrete base.
Thinking Abus Granit xplus 540 D lock for out and about use plus a chain to leave at home.
Any recommendations for a chain lock or improvement on the Abus D lock? Bike value (to me) is £1k.
AXlawrence said:
Make sure the wheels are locked too. Someone stole my wheels on the weekend from the private car park with security code access. Won't be making that mistake again.
I believe this comes equipped with IXOW wheel and saddle locking mechanisms. Don’t know how effective these are however.For insurance your bike may need gold rated lock if left in outbuilding at home even if the building is locked.
I got this : - https://www.tredz.co.uk/.OnGuard-Pitbull-DT-Shackl...
I got this : - https://www.tredz.co.uk/.OnGuard-Pitbull-DT-Shackl...
A big D lock through the rear wheel and triangle with a cable looped through the front wheel and a second cable lock through everything - also lock it in a way that the locks and frame are tight against each other and the thing they are locked to - at least that way they need two tools (bolt cutters and a jack) to get both off and you are making things hard. If they have a grinder, nothing will do too much to stop them.
The best bike lock is insurance + whatever lock you need to meet the insurance cover - if a determined bike thief wants your bike, chances are they are getting it - sad state of affairs, but bikes are light, mobile, expensive and the police don't seem to do a whole lot about them getting nicked.
The best bike lock is insurance + whatever lock you need to meet the insurance cover - if a determined bike thief wants your bike, chances are they are getting it - sad state of affairs, but bikes are light, mobile, expensive and the police don't seem to do a whole lot about them getting nicked.
All my bikes are in the garage but between six bikes, there are four d-locks and two cables. I have two of these
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-ultimate-d-lock-230m...
And two of these
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/kryptonite-evolution-stan...
And a very simple colour coded key system!!
I lock up them in two groups based on what gets used most often and I'm confident that in the unlikely event of someone breaking, they will look at it all and just take the sacrificial commuter hack that’s unlocked....
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/abus-ultimate-d-lock-230m...
And two of these
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/kryptonite-evolution-stan...
And a very simple colour coded key system!!
I lock up them in two groups based on what gets used most often and I'm confident that in the unlikely event of someone breaking, they will look at it all and just take the sacrificial commuter hack that’s unlocked....
I used a kryptonite 14mm chain and lock.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettab...
The bike was still stolen. They tried the lock and chain but failed. They cut through the bike frame instead.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettab...
The bike was still stolen. They tried the lock and chain but failed. They cut through the bike frame instead.
cornershop said:
Thinking Abus Granit xplus 540 D lock for out and about use plus a chain to leave at home.
Any lock can be cut these days in a few minutes, even a monster like the Abus Granit. Its about trying to reduce the chance of a thief targeting your bike rather than stopping them from stealing it.https://youtu.be/zqBAsEZHLSQ
I use the Abus Granit + Cable lock in a locked work bike shed on private grounds. Even than I only use the bike shed on odd occasions, in board day light, and never leave my bike in there for longer than a few hours. Most of the time the bike is check in my office, which is on the first floor, not visible to anyone walking past, and than locked to my desk.
I've had two bikes stolen in the last 10 years, but were actually from home. One was in a shed which they broke through the a normal padlock, the other was when they forced open the garage door - the bike was unlocked.
These days I keep my bikes hidden away in the actual house, and locked with a chain lock. At some point I'll install a ground anchor as well.
But essentially like cars, if someone really wants your bike they will get it, I try and lock my bike next so posher/fancier bikes, or ones with a useless cable lock when out and about. Luckily where we live is now much more secluded/safer than my old home address, still keeping the bikes out of sight/not in an out building does help.
I keep the bikes that I don't mind losing outside. The bikes that I'll miss stay inside.
To minimise space issues I'll keep the wheels off/mountain bike in a bike bag inside. Afterall it only gets ridden once or twice a week so no issue in out, in, out.
The road bike lives inside. It's clean anyway. So I don't see an issue of having it inside.
If you keep thousands of pounds in a shed or garage they'll go missing no matter what measures you use.
Bike thieves can be riders themselves. Just look at the big issues of bikes going missing in the Alps in Summer. I've heard stories of people going out for a season and using stolen bikes to fund their trip.
They'll cut their way through a frame etc as forks and groupsets, droppers nowadays are big money secondhand. A frame is too recognisable.
Yes a bike thief may come into your house but unlike an opportunistic thief who leaves with small items taking a bike is a big ask from getting through a small entry point/getting it out.
I'd prefer my expensive bike(s) indoors.
Police? The question would be why keep thousands of pounds in a shed?
Insurance- it's going to get more and more expensive to buy as people use it in place of proper responsibility.
To minimise space issues I'll keep the wheels off/mountain bike in a bike bag inside. Afterall it only gets ridden once or twice a week so no issue in out, in, out.
The road bike lives inside. It's clean anyway. So I don't see an issue of having it inside.
If you keep thousands of pounds in a shed or garage they'll go missing no matter what measures you use.
Bike thieves can be riders themselves. Just look at the big issues of bikes going missing in the Alps in Summer. I've heard stories of people going out for a season and using stolen bikes to fund their trip.
They'll cut their way through a frame etc as forks and groupsets, droppers nowadays are big money secondhand. A frame is too recognisable.
Yes a bike thief may come into your house but unlike an opportunistic thief who leaves with small items taking a bike is a big ask from getting through a small entry point/getting it out.
I'd prefer my expensive bike(s) indoors.
Police? The question would be why keep thousands of pounds in a shed?
Insurance- it's going to get more and more expensive to buy as people use it in place of proper responsibility.
I've taken the bikes off the house insurance and cancelled british cycling membership, with discount code from referral (have one if you need!) I've insured them with Laka, much better insurance which also covers accidental damage, liability and more (plus great reviews on service) for no extra cost overall.
snobetter said:
I've taken the bikes off the house insurance and cancelled british cycling membership, with discount code from referral (have one if you need!) I've insured them with Laka, much better insurance which also covers accidental damage, liability and more (plus great reviews on service) for no extra cost overall.
Interested in this option / referral with a pair of E-Bikes incomingPushedDover said:
snobetter said:
I've taken the bikes off the house insurance and cancelled british cycling membership, with discount code from referral (have one if you need!) I've insured them with Laka, much better insurance which also covers accidental damage, liability and more (plus great reviews on service) for no extra cost overall.
Interested in this option / referral with a pair of E-Bikes incomingThanks all for the advice!
I don’t have an in-home option sadly, so shed with bike posts is the only option.
I have ordered both a Abus D lock and a Kryptonite chain. As mentioned, if they’re that keen to take it, a portable cutter is all they need.
Laka insurance - i had just drafted an application, so thank you for the code
It’s the first bike I’ve ever bought (at 48 and a cheeky bit), so hope it’ll be around for a while.
I don’t have an in-home option sadly, so shed with bike posts is the only option.
I have ordered both a Abus D lock and a Kryptonite chain. As mentioned, if they’re that keen to take it, a portable cutter is all they need.
Laka insurance - i had just drafted an application, so thank you for the code
It’s the first bike I’ve ever bought (at 48 and a cheeky bit), so hope it’ll be around for a while.
PushedDover said:
Well - I have not plunged yet. they want £240 a year for a pair of e-MTB's
For mine, I could get my home insurance £150 less, £40 for British cycling and the £25 made it about the same overall, but better cover. Darren Franks from around here recently posted how he damaged his carbon wheels on a pot hole, Laka paid out the same day.cornershop said:
Q re insurance
Cost of used bike = £1k
Would I insure on cost value or cost of replacement? Asking as Urban 7.0 is no longer available, so unsure if they would provide a contribution to new bike as per cost of purchase or supply a new equivalent?
From Laka website (I'm not affiliated!)Cost of used bike = £1k
Would I insure on cost value or cost of replacement? Asking as Urban 7.0 is no longer available, so unsure if they would provide a contribution to new bike as per cost of purchase or supply a new equivalent?
So we make you choose the insured value of your bike and accessories. It's not easy, we know. Therefore we've made it simpler with a few clarifications for you (and a few tips)
Your Laka policy will be on a “new for old” basis, this means that if you have to claim we will replace your bicycle or accessories as new or with the nearest available, new, equivalent.
We won't apply depreciation of the value of your bike over time.
Remember that the community will not pay out more than the sum insured you’ve selected.
If you insure your bike for much less than the Recommended Retail Price (RRP) or the replacement cost then this means that you're not paying your fair share to the community and so we may have to reduce your claim. This is called underinsurance.
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If your bike or gear is a little older, then you may wish to insure it for what it would cost to replace today. If you choose to do this then when you come to claim we will do our best to replace your bike as new but remember that the community will only ever pay out up to the sum insured you’ve selected.
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