Tubless advice
Discussion
I currently have a Giant Tough road 2018
Running the stock Giant sycamore S gravel tyres 29 x 2.0
Rims Giants own brand Tubeless compatible rims at 19mm internal
So they will need rim taping 1st
So looking what rim tape?
And running the WTB ByWay 700 x 44
I run 50psi rear, 45psi front as a bit chunky at the moment
Is that rim wide enough for that size of tyre when tubeless?
WTB's are 50psi max
What max PSI's should I been looking at?
Stans no tubes race sealant seems to get good reviews?
What did you find out that you wish you have known 1st?
Running the stock Giant sycamore S gravel tyres 29 x 2.0
Rims Giants own brand Tubeless compatible rims at 19mm internal
So they will need rim taping 1st
So looking what rim tape?
And running the WTB ByWay 700 x 44
I run 50psi rear, 45psi front as a bit chunky at the moment
Is that rim wide enough for that size of tyre when tubeless?
WTB's are 50psi max
What max PSI's should I been looking at?
Stans no tubes race sealant seems to get good reviews?
What did you find out that you wish you have known 1st?
lufbramatt said:
My rims are 19mm internal too, I used 21mm Muc-off tubeless rim tape (mainly because it was cheapest) and it worked perfectly. Make sure you clean any left over glue from the previous rim tape off using a solvent so the new stuff sticks properly.
It will be a brand new install, no residue so a simple wipe with IPA should be goodReally it's trial and error when you first go tubeless. Basically if you get the tyre on easily then you don't have enough tape in the bed and you'll likely find it leaks. If that's the case keep adding tape until the tyre becomes very hard to get on.
Try getting the tyre bead to seat and hold air before putting the sealant in, having valve cores that unscrew is worthwhile
As for sealant itself, I like Orange Seal although Stans works well enough too
For my CX bike with 700x38 I tend to use around 45 psi rear and 40 front for a mix or road and offroad use. For pure offroad use I can drop 5-8 psi off each without worrying about burping but you do lose some cornering ability on the road as the tyre wants to roll over a bit
Try getting the tyre bead to seat and hold air before putting the sealant in, having valve cores that unscrew is worthwhile
As for sealant itself, I like Orange Seal although Stans works well enough too
For my CX bike with 700x38 I tend to use around 45 psi rear and 40 front for a mix or road and offroad use. For pure offroad use I can drop 5-8 psi off each without worrying about burping but you do lose some cornering ability on the road as the tyre wants to roll over a bit
Edited by itsnotarace on Tuesday 28th April 08:36
Stans sealant seems to work well in my experience. On the other hand, Stans rim tape is hopeless (in my opinion). If you do want to use it, you can get the same tape off ebay for about 1/10th of the price if you buy it by its generic name - I forget what that is but can find out if you really want to know. I ditched it and switched to Gorilla handy roll. £3 for a roll from tesco. Massively easier to install, will work even if there is some old residue in the wheels (best practice to clean but if you ever are in a massive hurry/emergency it's useful to know) and since switching my tyres have help pressure far far better. Personally I wouldn't bother with dedicated rim tape as it doesn't seem to offer anything more and can be a pain.
+ 1 for gorilla tape - run with it for three years now and no issues.
My internal width is 19 mm and I'm running Schwalbe Furious Fred on the back (2.0) and Bontrager XR2 (2.1) on the front - both rims are Bontrager Mustang Elites.
Pressure wise, I'm lower as they're mtb rather than gravel, but have had them that high when installing.
Use removable core valves and have both injected sealant through them and just by loading into an unsealed tyre. Both methods work fine, the latter means you only have to pump up the once.
Hardest part is getting the tyre on - have used CO2 canisters originally - bit hit and miss, and an air blaster which seems to be better for my combos.
Used Stans original at first and have moved onto MucOff sealant - not because of issues, just fancied trying an alternative when I needed more. The MucOff holds air better. Stans Race Sealant is meant to be better than the original as well
My internal width is 19 mm and I'm running Schwalbe Furious Fred on the back (2.0) and Bontrager XR2 (2.1) on the front - both rims are Bontrager Mustang Elites.
Pressure wise, I'm lower as they're mtb rather than gravel, but have had them that high when installing.
Use removable core valves and have both injected sealant through them and just by loading into an unsealed tyre. Both methods work fine, the latter means you only have to pump up the once.
Hardest part is getting the tyre on - have used CO2 canisters originally - bit hit and miss, and an air blaster which seems to be better for my combos.
Used Stans original at first and have moved onto MucOff sealant - not because of issues, just fancied trying an alternative when I needed more. The MucOff holds air better. Stans Race Sealant is meant to be better than the original as well
I use the narrow Gorilla tape, and Muc Off pink goo.
For initially seating the bead, my rear tyre was a complete dick to do, even with a compressor.
In the end, I used a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tyre, to artificially squash the diameter and force the walls out to make the bead seat, which worked but needed to be surprisingly tight to get it to cooperate.
Incidentally, I found putting some of the Muc Off goo in a tubed tyre showed it to work perfectly well as a puncture sealant in those as well.
For initially seating the bead, my rear tyre was a complete dick to do, even with a compressor.
In the end, I used a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tyre, to artificially squash the diameter and force the walls out to make the bead seat, which worked but needed to be surprisingly tight to get it to cooperate.
Incidentally, I found putting some of the Muc Off goo in a tubed tyre showed it to work perfectly well as a puncture sealant in those as well.
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