Turbo Trainer Query

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Hudson1984

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336 posts

75 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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Hi all,

so I tend to train more regularly indoors than out - I like a sunday ride but generally "train" indoors - just find it easier to control the outcome and of course...the weather!

I've just swapped from Zwift to Sufferfest and LOVE IT!

this being said, I do find my current trainer (Tacx Flow) a little basic, in that because it holds the bike so rigid, I'm only really able to do about an hour before i'm in agony.

Now, I'm thinking of maybe upgrading but also considering a Rockr type base frame to see if that helps.

I see that the Neo 2T does give some lateral movement - not loads but just a good amount to give a bit more of a realistic feel.

do any others do this? I can't really justify the cost of a Neo, even used but I can't see anything else that gives that functionality.

I think if it's just the Neo, i'll opt for a base frame - I do have the required parts - but I also would quite like a wheel off trainer.

be good to hear what other options exist to my far too solid setup




Dannbodge

2,196 posts

127 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Having motion won't make it any more realistic, it just allows some compliance to add comfort.

Anyone that says a rocker plate adds realism is chatting ****

I have a Neo and haven't had any issues doing up to 2hr rides on it, I previously had a Flux (solid trainer) and still had no issues doing 2hr rides.

I do find that by bibshort and saddle combination makes much more difference than the bit of flex.

Watch this. It explains the difference between comfort and realism quite well.
https://youtu.be/vgfFPjus02M

Hudson1984

Original Poster:

336 posts

75 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Oh I'm not expecting reality in terms of stones flying at me or drivers cutting me up to make a point..

more a case of being able to sit in the saddle longer is all and a little bit of motion would seemingly help a bit, I don't really have too much interest in it being "real" in terms of feeling like being on the road, more "real" as in I can ride on the road for 5 hours without an issue, but on the turbo an hour is about my limit. So I want a bit of motion to hopefully keep my arse from feeling like it's being kicked.

I've had a bike fit
I wear bib shorts

so only real difference is the fact that the bike is solid in the frame. That's what I want to fix

lufbramatt

5,422 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Kinetic Rock+Roll has motion. Their smart trainers appear to have issues but the fluid ones are bomb proof.

If you're on Facebook have a look for the "Rocker Plates" group, they have some plans for DIY rocker plates. https://www.facebook.com/groups/415329188897706/

I considered making one but it seems that the rocking motion is the opposite of how the bike moves in real life so didn't bother in the end.

Hudson1984

Original Poster:

336 posts

75 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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not on facebook (can't stand it) but yeah was in that group before I left and it's where I got the idea from really. Didn't realise it was the wrong motion.

all I really want is a little "give" just something to add to the comfort factor, I need to do more than an hour really, especially with the weather how it is, my indoor training is getting more frequent.

NorthDave

2,395 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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I find the easiest way is to just to introduce regular climbing out of the saddle elements. Gives the undercarriage time to recover.

keith2.2

1,100 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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This may / may not be helpful but I have a Tacx Neo that I use for the same reason (the actual training sessions) but then also do my long rides on when the weather isn't up to it - I've done several 6-8hr rides on it with the TT bike and I do find the slight rock that it gives helps keep the (additional) pain away.

Hudson1984

Original Poster:

336 posts

75 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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keith2.2 said:
This may / may not be helpful but I have a Tacx Neo that I use for the same reason (the actual training sessions) but then also do my long rides on when the weather isn't up to it - I've done several 6-8hr rides on it with the TT bike and I do find the slight rock that it gives helps keep the (additional) pain away.
nope it doesn't help. It just means that the neo looks to be the right tool for the job I want to give it hahah drat!