Why spend thousands on something then put it in a shed?

Why spend thousands on something then put it in a shed?

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Sa Calobra

Original Poster:

38,038 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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There's no room in the house?
They are dirty?
I own too many/not enough room?
I don't want the thieves coming into the house?

Too many posts on Facebook with shed and garage breaks.

The most expensive items in my shed are car tyres and a lawnmower.

For me, thousands is alot of money. Too much to lose. For someone to force their way into your house is a step up from breaking into a shed. True?


PulsatingStar

1,717 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Totally agree. Obviously burglaries happen but its another level of crime up. A lot of clubmates had bikes stolen this year, all from sheds or garage blocks but many still wont move expensive bikes inside.

Integroo

11,585 posts

91 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Insure them?

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

151 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Weirdly my shed is probably more secure than my house or garage. Our house doesn't have any side access so to get to the shed in the back garden you'd have to either break into the garage door and then through the back door of the garage or through the house. From the rear it might be easier if you knew it was there but would still involve going through someone else's access, back garden and over a fence. Probably the best place for an expensive bike. Unfortunately at the moment the most expensive bike we have is my Cube hybrid and that's was only £900 new so lives in the garage with all the other bikes.

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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build a better "shed" is surely the answer?

Sa Calobra

Original Poster:

38,038 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Integroo said:
Insure them?
Two things.

I've never had a bike stolen. I deal with scrotes daily, I couldn't bear for just one pound of my money to go in their hands nevermind my property. People see it as almost I'll put it in the shed/garage as I know I'll get my money back as they are 'insured/will get their money back'.

One day insurance companies will refuse to insure or offer extortionate rates. What then?

That day will come.


Some mates have told me that their premiums have gone up and many insurers offer high new rates already.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,623 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I keep mine in the garage - I have added extra locks to the wooden side door and the front is covered by a camera...

I also make sure all of my bikes are locked to secure anchor points using ABUS chains/locks so if a scrote were to gain entry to the garage they would need an angle grinder to steal my bikes (and I don't own one of those) so hopefully that would be enough to put most scrotes off.

Anchor Point
Abus Chain

I may get a more expensive chain for my new bike when it arrives, something like this Abus Granite but they are expensive...

Sa Calobra

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38,038 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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They invest in angle grinders.

They'll also sacrifice a nice frame (hard to sell on) and cut through the frame to take all the bits to sell on. Fox forks etc all get good money second hand don't they and when was the last time you noted down the fork number etc.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,623 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
They invest in angle grinders.

They'll also sacrifice a nice frame (hard to sell on) and cut through the frame to take all the bits to sell on. Fox forks etc all get good money second hand don't they and when was the last time you noted down the fork number etc.
In my case if the scrotes are going to that length then putting the bike in the house would make no difference -
  1. No chain / security wil beat a determined attempt
  2. It is possibly easier to break into the house than the garage...
Bike security is all about making hings difficult such that a casual theif will go elsewhere

Sa Calobra

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38,038 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Casual thieves walk round rattling door locks or look for an opening.

Those that come to actually break in tend to go for something and come equipped. (Otherwise how did they get in?).


daddy cool

4,018 posts

235 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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When I started getting into cycling about 10 years ago, I had a Kona Blast mountain bike (only £450, but I loved it) nicked from my garage. The padlocks were chopped and taken, and obviously very careful to negotiate the car in there and only took a set of spanners in addition. My mate was very unsympathetic / took the piss.

Fast forward a few years, cycling bug has bitten, and I have a road bike and 2 mountain bikes, all in the £1.5-2k bracket... and all living inside in my spare room, allowing me to sleep easy.
My mate calls me up to say his shed was broken into the night before, and they took all his bikes... his £2k road bike, his £3.5k mountain bike, his wifes cheaper but still decent Trek MTB... ooof.

sjg

7,519 posts

271 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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There's no room in my house (and moving to a house with an extra bedroom would eclipse the cost of the bikes). Plus spare bedrooms tend to be upstairs which just adds to the hassle, and then small kids can fiddle with them.

I get home at 11pm from a MTB night ride, sometimes I do bother to wash it when I get in but I'm certainly not drying it all before I can wheel it inside. Quick hose down and put away wet.

I don't have monstrously expensive bikes - a few have upgrades here and there but I didn't spend more than £1000 on each.

I do avoid showing signs of what I have: Strava privacy settings (and no bike descriptions on rides), don't leave cycle carriers on the car, never leave the garage door open for anyone walking past to see what's in there.

I used to have them indoors when I lived in a flat and just had to find/make room for them to fit. But it was a total pain - I'd rather beef up security in the garage and have them out of the house.

trails

4,280 posts

155 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I just changed house insurance and added two bikes (£7.5k) to the policy for an additional £100 or so...used quote me happy. Peace of mind and no bikes in the house makes it worthwhile for me (and the wife!).

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

203 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Aldi sell cordless angle grinders......every scrote has an angle grinder.
Do people think shed thieves just carry a jemmy like the good old days?

Hackney

6,973 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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No-one else has mentioned it but our shed is included in the house alarm system.
Both the full mode and night mode cover the (windowless, but windows could also be covered) shed. Anyone forces the door and the alarm goes off.

Bike is insured aswell as a named item on the contents policy.

citizenmtb

1,495 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Our local bike thief died of an overdose a few years ago and I’ve not heard of any burglaries since.

The new trend is a gang of lads from another area holding kids up at knifepoint for their bikes. I’ve not encountered them myself but there are a lots of posts on Facebook about them. I guess it’s easier than trying to break into a home/shed!

S100HP

12,938 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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My 5 are in a shed in the garden, but its an Asgard metal shed.

website said:
Asgard is one of the UK's leading suppliers of high quality secure metal sheds, metal bike storage units, motorcycle garages, school storage and caravan storage for over 30 years. From very large industrial size units down to smaller more discreet units the Asgard range of outdoor metal garden sheds are security approved and built to last. Asgard prides itself on its superior quality and secure design, with many of the Storage Units accredited with the Loss Prevention Certification Board, to Level 1 as well as supplying Sold Secure and Thatcham approved security products. As specialists in secure steel storage, Asgard is also a Calor Gas approved supplier for the Asgas gas bottle storage units. Asgard design and manufacture the most versatile and secure multi-purpose storage for outdoor use, with excellent weatherproof protection and unequalled build quality. Asgard continuously monitors its environmental impact, with its environmental systems ISO 14001 approved, and its Quality Management System accredited under 9001.

nickfrog

21,771 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
One day insurance companies will refuse to insure or offer extortionate rates. What then?

That day will come.

Some mates have told me that their premiums have gone up and many insurers offer high new rates already.
Sounds anecdotal. I find quality home cover is cheap as chips and has been stable for a number of years. Premiums always go up, that's the nature of the industry. That doesn't mean that average premiums are rising.

Coolbanana

4,418 posts

206 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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When I lived in the UK at first I kept my bike in the house then, when I moved to a home with a garage, I always kept my bikes in that. I'd never trust a shed!

Now I have a Basement garage and keep my bikes there next to the cars. That said, my new MTB is here in the Living Room, has been since I got it just over a week ago. biggrin I'm still in the 'wash it after every ride' Honeymoon phase. My wife is away on business, doesn't even know about it, but here on Friday and then it'll join my other bikes in the garage. Not even a £7k bike gets to live in the house when she is here. rolleyes

Scabutz

8,078 posts

86 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
They invest in angle grinders.

They'll also sacrifice a nice frame (hard to sell on) and cut through the frame to take all the bits to sell on. Fox forks etc all get good money second hand don't they and when was the last time you noted down the fork number etc.
When I bought my very expensive triathlon bike I learnt all about this. The insurance wanted it in a secured garage and chained to the floor with motorcycle chains. Then someone else pointed out that they would just cut through the frame and have the wheels (£2k+), and the electronic groupset.

It now lives in our spare room. Our garage is quite easy to break into and have a look but our house already looks like its been burgled so that should put people trying.

If the worst happens its insured but I feel its safer in the house. No one knows its there, my home is hidden in on Strava.