MTB Tubeless, Yay Or Nay?

MTB Tubeless, Yay Or Nay?

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InitialDave

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12,182 posts

125 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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The last two rides I've been on, I've got a puncture in my rear tyre - once from a thorn, once from a bit of glass where the underclass had been chucking their bottles on a cycle path. It's piggin' annoying, and while I can just do a repair an carry on, I'm wondering if I'd be better served by going over to tubeless.

My Kore rims and WTB tyres are both tubeless ready, so all I'd need is the sealant kit and valves.

I'm not especially bothered about weight saving or performance aspects, I'm happy enough running tubes as far as function goes, I'd just rather not have interruptions to my riding thanks to punctures.

Would still carry an emergency tube as backup, and add a plug kit and maybe a tyre patch to my toolkit.

Thoughts? Is it worth doing, or am I better to stick with tubes and regard it just as bad luck I've had a couple of flats in a row recently?

sjg

7,519 posts

271 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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If you can remove the valve cores in your existing tubes, you could just stick some sealant in them (a syringe and tube makes this easy). No weight or performance benefits but smaller punctures will seal themselves up.

Setting up proper tubeless is so variable - I've had bikes that took no effort at all, and some that I've abandoned because we just couldn't get it to seat even with an airshot or compressor.

rs4al

950 posts

171 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yay

leyorkie

1,678 posts

182 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I’m going tubeless eventually ie when I change tyres.
I tried with my existing tyres but it was like a colander due to all the punctures that the tyres have had
Best to start with new tyres

missing the VR6

2,383 posts

195 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yay. Been running them for 7 years, only had 2 slashed tyres, but always keep a tube in my pack and a spare bit of tube to put round the tube where the tyre slash is.

Fluffsri

3,209 posts

202 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yay when it all goes well as in the beads seat first time, the rim tape holds and the valves seal correctly. Nope when non of the mentioned happens! I spent 2 and half hours trying to sort mine out on Sunday, my rim tape seemed to be a mm off and would not let the valve assembly seal.

I've been running tubeless for 18 months now and all has been great, not had one full deflation but had a couple of punctures that have sealed straight away.

lufbramatt

5,422 posts

140 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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YES

Haven't had a single puncture on my mtb since I set them up tubeless last August.

They seem to lose less air between rides than tubes. And being able to run lower pressures without fear of pinch flats is great too.

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I do about 2000 miles a year, mostly on forest tracks and paths, and I’ve never had a puncture since going tubeless. When I was running with tubes I was forever getting punctures!

But make sure that the tubeless conversion has been done properly. The Giant MTB that I had before the current bike was supplied already converted to tubeless. But the tyres always seemed to lose pressure, I’d have to top up them up at least once a week. I mentioned this to the dealer who said that some pressure loss is normal due to tyre ‘burps’ when hitting bumps, so I thought nothing more of it and continued to top up when necessary.

My current bike a Boardman 29er was supplied ‘tubeless ready’ and had tubes fitted, so I had to do the tubeless conversion myself. After taping the inside of the wheel and fitting the valves I could not get the tyres to hold pressure properly, they’d need topping up after a day or so which didn’t seem right at all. I eventually traced this to the valves leaking where they fit through the holes in the rim, the hole edges were very sharp where they meet with the valves causing leaks. So I very carefully rounded off the sharp edges and refitted the valves with a bit of added rubber glue. Since then the tyres hardly seem to leak at all now, I can go for weeks without needing topping up. So now I wonder if the tubeless system fitted to the Giant was ever fitted properly …

One other thing to mention is that if you are running tubeless and have never had a puncture, it’s still worth taking the tyres off now and again to have a look inside. I was amazed to find at least 6 thorn penetrations in my rear tyre that the tubeless gloop had sealed without issue. That must have saved me six roadside punctures to deal with!

Bill

53,949 posts

261 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Yay! I've had one puncture that failed to seal in 2+ years. And a disturbing number of thorns present when I've checked when I replace the goo.

Andy JB

1,320 posts

225 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Highly recommended - i've had no issues after 3 years on my MTB except the odd burp on rough trails (tyre pinches on the side wall & loses some fluid).

Remember it won't seal large cuts ie from glass but will heal the majority of punctures without you knowing.

Mind you my other 3 road bikes I'm sticking with tubes, as its less fuss & i like to swap tyres around ie sizes brands, cross tyres etc so sealant can be messy if you do this, plus on road you tend not to get too many punctures if using the correct pressures so i've not found the need.

Also if you you are not worried about weight the green slime tubes can offer a useful alternative.

bmwmike

7,302 posts

114 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Not currently, but will be. Am considering cutting the inner tube valves out and using those - anyone done that, or is buying the proper valve the recommended way to do it?

Thanks

snotrag

14,828 posts

217 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Tubeless for probably ten years on all bikes. I cannot imagine how anyone runs tubes these days.
Last week i rode over a big (5cm) bit of bent wire or nail on my gravel bike and it stuck right through the tread. I only knew because it was making a funny sound as it went round. I stopped, pulled it out and carried on. I haven't even topped the tyre up since that ride.

It would have been a ten minute ride ruining faff pre tubeless days.

youngricharduk

235 posts

91 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Got to agree with the replies above, been running tubeless for about 2 years, providing you top up the sealant every 6 month or so I've never had a puncture since I converted.

gazza285

10,111 posts

214 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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bmwmike said:
Not currently, but will be. Am considering cutting the inner tube valves out and using those - anyone done that, or is buying the proper valve the recommended way to do it?

Thanks
Proper valves are cheap enough, a couple of quid will get you a pair from eBay...

SamR380

730 posts

126 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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bmwmike said:
Not currently, but will be. Am considering cutting the inner tube valves out and using those - anyone done that, or is buying the proper valve the recommended way to do it?

Thanks
I did do this and have got away with it so far. I bought the proper valves weeks earlier then couldn't find them. Just check you can remove the core, cheaper tubes won't have removable valve cores.

gazza285

10,111 posts

214 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I’ve got one MTB set up using non removable valve cores, if I need to put more juice in I just pop a bead off, it’s so much easier than trying to squirt the stuff through a removable core valve stem that I use the same technique on pur other bikes as well.

BobSaunders

3,041 posts

161 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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youngricharduk said:
Got to agree with the replies above, been running tubeless for about 2 years, providing you top up the sealant every 6 month or so I've never had a puncture since I converted.
How painful is it to replace sealant?

InitialDave

Original Poster:

12,182 posts

125 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Thanks for all the replies, sounds like a fairly solid majority for tubeless.

I'll see about getting myself some goo and valves.

youngricharduk

235 posts

91 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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BobSaunders said:
How painful is it to replace sealant?
Completely painless. 'Removable valve core's', you just unscrew and squirt the sealant in using a Stans syringe for eg or just buy the small top-up bottle of sealants. Because the tyre is already sealed you just blow it back up.

breamster

1,034 posts

186 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I've been running tubeless for years with no problems. A few rides back I managed to roll a tyre off of the rim in a crash. I couldn't get it to inflate whilst in the woods so I put in a tube to get me home.

Coincidentally, after a puncture, tonight I tried to remove the tube and go back to tubeless. This is where I got a bit irritated...

The tube was glued into the tyre so it was a job to remove it.

I then had to remove dry gloop from the beads.

I then put it back together and tried to inflate.
I couldn't get the damn thing to inflate!!

I then knocked the stans gloop bottle over and it made a hell of a mess.

My compressor started leaking and the hose had split. I went to put the spare hose on and the connector sheared off.

At which point i shut the door and stomped off in a huff!!!!


Overall tubeless is good.....but not tonight!!