Tubeless nightmare ( again ).

Tubeless nightmare ( again ).

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GOATever

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2,651 posts

73 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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I have previously used tubeless on a road bike, and found them to be a bag of ste, in comparison to MTB tubeless. I recently bought some Mavic UST wheels for one of my bikes, and Id thought that they had nailed it. I thought wrong. I’ve just had a ride ending problem with them. I got a small cut in the side wall, caused by a broken bottle which I was trying to avoid, but got blown into by a strong side gust of wind ( that’s a whole ‘nother thing ). Anyway, long story short, they are as useless as they were before, regarding puncture resistance, and issues when you do get a puncture. Side wall cuts are the worst thing that can happen, but I did kind of hope that they would have faired better than they did. I’d forgotten my tyre levers ( thought I wouldn’t need them ). I’m going to try the Stans race sealant I’ve got at home, as this should seal the hole as it’s not that big. So long story short, tubeless road is still a gash idea IMO.

BeirutTaxi

6,632 posts

220 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Few hundred miles on my Giant tubeless system so far and no issues.

Recommended especially given the extra ride comfort it provides.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,623 posts

260 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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I tried tubeless for a few months on my gravel bike - it seamed that every time I went out I would get a puncture that wouldn’t seal - leading to a mare with putting a tube in a tyre filled with goo (usually in the rain and mud for a good measure)...

I tried Stans, Caffe Latex and Orange all hopeless... a few months later a friend bought a gravel bike and insisted on going tubeless - he had loads of issues but eventually he found a sealant that worked - no idea what it was called but it was bright blue and had larger fibres that the ones I tried.

mikecassie

620 posts

165 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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I have used Stans which was ok but not great. Next couple set of tyres I fitted I used Muc-Off sealant and it seems to be better. I used the Muc-Off on Hutchinsons onto Hunts and GP5000 onto Enves.

Bill

53,949 posts

261 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Have you tried tubeless plugs when they won't seal?

GOATever

Original Poster:

2,651 posts

73 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Bill said:
Have you tried tubeless plugs when they won't seal?
The anchovies were totally useless, they made things worse. You push them in with a fork thing, that made the hole bigger, and it was even less likely to seal ( it didn’t ). It could just be that I lucked out by getting a cut in the side wall, as I’ve not had any issues with tread cuts on the body of the tyres. I’ll just have to remember to bring my tyre levers and a spare inner tube in future. The extra comfort they afford is still worthwhile, they just aren’t as much use as far as puncture prevention goes, as some people assume.

Crippo

1,237 posts

226 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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You need Dynaplug, simply the best, easiest, fastest and most reliable tubeless fix it system.

GOATever

Original Poster:

2,651 posts

73 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Interestingly, I changed the sealant for the Stans Race sealant. The hole is now sealed, and will hold 50-60 psi, which would have been plenty to get me home yesterday. It’s still a sidewall cut though, so the tyre is toast. However, I looked at it as a good excuse to buy some Continental GP 5000 tubeless, so I have. Every cloud has a silver lining eh?

ALawson

7,845 posts

257 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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I have run tubeless for 4 years now, only had to take the tyre of 2 or 3 times and that was due to 2 side wall cuts circa 15mm which would have defeated a tube as well. I run IRC tyres which are pretty durable and the bespoke levers for them can get their tubeless tyres off and on in 10-15mins,

Obviously if out on the bike you need a tube following a tyre removal/replacement as no tubeless tyre unless brand new is going to seal of a single co2 or hand pump.

The other the sidewall blew after about 80km (replaced by the supplier).

I would get a spare tyre and practice killing and repairing it in the warmth of your own kitchen as it does take a knack on the old worms.

Maracus

4,400 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I may have been lucky having covered 6000 miles with my tubeless Gavia AC1s with not one issue.


Harpoon

1,946 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Interesting read from Malcolm at the Cycle Clinic about living with tubeless

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/blogs/news/living-wit...

ALawson

7,845 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Harpoon said:
Interesting read from Malcolm at the Cycle Clinic about living with tubeless

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/blogs/news/living-wit...
Malcolm converted me to tubeless 4 years ago. His articles despite the typos and spelling mistakes are useful stuff and what he says is all true. Most people considering the switch would be wise to read his articles and watch his videos.

Harpoon

1,946 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I was carrying two tubes on my "best" bike which is setup tubeless (Hutchinson tyres and sealant). Since reading that article, I ditched one tube in favour of a tubeless repair kit (with superglue coming from eBay soon) but can't quite bring myself to ditch the other tube...

outnumbered

4,326 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Harpoon said:
Interesting read from Malcolm at the Cycle Clinic about living with tubeless

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/blogs/news/living-wit...
He says that the Maxalami worms are a permanent fix. Not in my tyres they weren't. If these had worked as claimed, I'd still be using tubeless. Maybe I'm just unlucky though.....