Two thirds of drivers are surprised when a cyclist ‘appears
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From RoadCC
'Two-thirds of drivers say they are often surprised when a cyclist ‘appears from nowhere’, according to research carried out by the AA Charitable Trust (link is external). This compares to just over half of drivers questioned five years ago when the organisation’s ‘Think Bikes’ campaign was launched ...
Other findings from the survey, which questioned 20,788 people, were that drivers over 65 were the most likely to say cyclists were inconsiderate (69%), while drivers aged 18-to-24 were the least likely to say cyclists were inconsiderate (57%).
The vast majority of drivers agreed that cyclists (95%) and motorcyclists (93%) are vulnerable and always give them space.'
'Two-thirds of drivers say they are often surprised when a cyclist ‘appears from nowhere’, according to research carried out by the AA Charitable Trust (link is external). This compares to just over half of drivers questioned five years ago when the organisation’s ‘Think Bikes’ campaign was launched ...
Other findings from the survey, which questioned 20,788 people, were that drivers over 65 were the most likely to say cyclists were inconsiderate (69%), while drivers aged 18-to-24 were the least likely to say cyclists were inconsiderate (57%).
The vast majority of drivers agreed that cyclists (95%) and motorcyclists (93%) are vulnerable and always give them space.'
Try reading RogerDodger’s posts on this thread
RogerDodger said:
When I overtake a cyclist I leave plenty of room, but I don't go far over into the other lane. No need to. And I certainly don't overtake as if the cyclist was a car. Highway code or not.
If you are behind me and plough into a cyclist because I didn't indicate then you need your eyes tested, and to back off and drive further back.
If you are behind me and plough into a cyclist because I didn't indicate then you need your eyes tested, and to back off and drive further back.
Interesting enough I had a discussion about the “he came out of nowhere” excuse with a policeman the other day and his view was as obviously it’s impossible for a cyclist to come out of nowhere, just that the driver didn’t see them so it’s an admission of not driving with due care and ATTENTION.
Impossible for a cyclist to come out of nowhere? frankly that's b
ks, it all depends.
In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
ks, it all depends.In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
FiF said:
Impossible for a cyclist to come out of nowhere? frankly that's bks, it all depends.
In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
But "the cyclist" still didn't "come from nowhere". He came from behind a building to the left. Which, last time I had a physics lecture, had to be "somewhere". So the cyclist in your tale is a bit of an idiot. But then again, car drivers are often idiots too. Driving into things that are already there before they arrive, for instance...ks, it all depends.In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
freakybacon said:
Which is a clear cut case of a fknugget wkspankle motorist being lazy (cutting the corner) and driving into a space he's either not checked before driving into, checked but failed to see isn't clear (due care & attention) or he's seen the cyclist and decided that his decision to use a space overrules the laws of physics that say that only one object can occupy the space at any one time (driving deliberately into another road user? Dangerous driving).The driver in that clip? He should be beaten until his eyeballs burst, and THEN prosecuted for the catch-all offence of "just being a c
t generally". The cyclist in your tale should face the same punishment as drivers do when they behave in the same manner. Which in around 99.732% of cases where no collision occurs is "no punishment at all" due to shocking under-funding and low staffing levels in Roads Policing Units, and a lack of will on the part of the CPS to take cases before juries.yellowjack said:
FiF said:
Impossible for a cyclist to come out of nowhere? frankly that's bks, it all depends.
In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
But "the cyclist" still didn't "come from nowhere". He came from behind a building to the left. Which, last time I had a physics lecture, had to be "somewhere". So the cyclist in your tale is a bit of an idiot. But then again, car drivers are often idiots too. Driving into things that are already there before they arrive, for instance.ks, it all depends.In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
FiF said:
Bit of smart arse semantics leading to classic whataboutery. Does you no credit, sorry.
Hmmm?"Fast reactions"? Are you sure about that bit? Or was it just that the cyclist was long gone by the time your brain caught up to what you eyes were passing on to it?
The fact that you seem to be OK with a driver crashing into a stationary cyclist wholly within his own lane, yet you are not OK with a complete non-event does you no credit either. So we'll chalk that up as a draw and leave it there, right?
The eyes look, the brain sees. The brain can only process a certain amount of the info supplied by the eyes, a lot is blanked out by the brain. If you are driving towards a junction ( for example) and because your speed is constant, and a cyclist ( for example ) is approaching from the side, and because of their speed relative to your speed, is constant, they appear to be in a stationary position, as far as your brain is concerned. So the brain ignores the cyclist, as ‘stationary’ objects don’t get priority. Therefore if the relative approach speeds vary as the vehicle, or cyclist slow, they appear ‘from nowhere’. Look, look, and look again.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-hi...
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-hi...
FiF said:
Impossible for a cyclist to come out of nowhere? frankly that's bks, it all depends.
In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
I would be interested in what your "spelling issue" is?ks, it all depends.In the position of the camera car with the lights on green cyclist appeared in front of me going full pelt from the pavement to the left from behind the building and pedestrians waiting to cross and cranked it across to go the wrong way down the one way street I'd just driven up. Fortunately fast reactions on my part saved the count. ??? <<<<< Might have a spelling issue there.
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