High end road ( super ) bikes are getting a bit pricey
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I’d be shiznip scared to ride the thing. Imagine seeing that bounce down the road, disintegrating into a pile of CF shards.
I’d be shiznip scared to ride the thing. Imagine seeing that bounce down the road, disintegrating into a pile of CF shards.
Integroo said:
At that point it is a status symbol, and nothing more.
Well i'd say it's a top of the range bike AND a status symbol.It's just the bike equivalent of a ferrari/McLaren/lambo Except a lot cheaper
If someone can afford it though why not. I'm sure my bike is unnecessary for my ability (it definitely is) but I feel good riding it so I ride more than I used to. So it's worth it to me - though I could get 3 plus change for the price of this one
The super car analogy is how I see it too. I’m still on my first (£1k new). Had it for 3 years and now want to upgrade. I used our Majorca holiday to try out a Giant TCR for a few days but was also tempted to hire a Pinarello F10 for 1 day (although the dates didn’t work in the end and wasn’t exactly critical)
No interest in buying an F10 as I) I’d probably get laughed at (a lot) and ii) would be paranoid at every cafe about it being nicked. But can’t help being curious about how different a £10k bike is to ride.
No interest in buying an F10 as I) I’d probably get laughed at (a lot) and ii) would be paranoid at every cafe about it being nicked. But can’t help being curious about how different a £10k bike is to ride.
An awful lot of money for a very dull spec!
Best way to look at these 10k and upwards bikes however is that if it were Motorsport then this would be similar to being able to buy this coming years F1 Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari exactly as raced (or close to it).
They are a way for manufacturers to show what they are capable of and demonstrate what will one day be available at a more reasonable price.
Mad though.
Best way to look at these 10k and upwards bikes however is that if it were Motorsport then this would be similar to being able to buy this coming years F1 Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari exactly as raced (or close to it).
They are a way for manufacturers to show what they are capable of and demonstrate what will one day be available at a more reasonable price.
Mad though.
But unlike supercars these bikes aren’t necessarily faster than your £1000 bike even if they look and sound fast. Living and riding on the Wirral you see a lot of these top end bikes people have a lot of disposable money for their hobbies. I don’t mind being overtaken by someone on a £5000+ bike and trying to keep up with them.
Tom1312 said:
Best way to look at these 10k and upwards bikes however is that if it were Motorsport then this would be similar to being able to buy this coming years F1 Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari exactly as raced (or close to it).
That's how I look at it as well. I will never own Hamilton's car, but I can own Cavendish's bike. Give or take.BoRED S2upid said:
But unlike supercars these bikes aren’t necessarily faster than your £1000 bike even if they look and sound fast
Law of diminishing returns - granted - but they are.Whether it's aero on the flat, light weight / stiffness on the climbs or frame quality / handling dynamics on the descents - more money will get a faster bike.
GCN compared a 1k Canyon with a 5k Aero Canyon and found as much. As have my own upgrades (I'm honest enough to take purchase justification out of the equation).
On the same road, by 3k Aero Felt is a lot faster than my 1k Bianchi Via Nirone. Will my *cough*k Oltre XR4 Disc / Di2 be faster than my Felt? No idea but jeeze it's pretty and it was a heart purchase not a head purchase
I'll feed back when it arrives.
If you're a good enough a cyclist to do justice to a £10k bike, someone will give you one.
I liked the analogy earlier that you can't own Hamilton's car, but you can own Cavendish's bike. It's a good point, well made.
I personally have no problem with £10k+ bikes, each to their own. Just because they're available, doesn't mean they're selling many of them.
I used to play the "What bikes would you buy with £10k" game with a mate over lunch, and it nearly always involved a decent enduro-road bike, a half decent TT bike, a load of Isla-Bikes for the kids as they grow up, and the rest on bits and bobs, mostly from Rapha.
I liked the analogy earlier that you can't own Hamilton's car, but you can own Cavendish's bike. It's a good point, well made.
I personally have no problem with £10k+ bikes, each to their own. Just because they're available, doesn't mean they're selling many of them.
I used to play the "What bikes would you buy with £10k" game with a mate over lunch, and it nearly always involved a decent enduro-road bike, a half decent TT bike, a load of Isla-Bikes for the kids as they grow up, and the rest on bits and bobs, mostly from Rapha.
keith2.2 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
But unlike supercars these bikes aren’t necessarily faster than your £1000 bike even if they look and sound fast
Law of diminishing returns - granted - but they are.Whether it's aero on the flat, light weight / stiffness on the climbs or frame quality / handling dynamics on the descents - more money will get a faster bike.
GCN compared a 1k Canyon with a 5k Aero Canyon and found as much. As have my own upgrades (I'm honest enough to take purchase justification out of the equation).
On the same road, by 3k Aero Felt is a lot faster than my 1k Bianchi Via Nirone. Will my *cough*k Oltre XR4 Disc / Di2 be faster than my Felt? No idea but jeeze it's pretty and it was a heart purchase not a head purchase
I'll feed back when it arrives.
If I had the money I’d definitely get one they look awesome.
E65Ross said:
I love the fact high end bikes exist. There has never been more choice for bikes than now, I think.
Can't afford this bike? Then buy something else? No big deal, is it?
There’s no way I’d spend more than 10 grand on any single road bike, let alone an ‘off the shelf’ offering. I was having a good look at a couple of bikes in a Giant store quite close to me over the weekend. They had a propel advanced SL disc, for 9K. It was a very tidy piece of kit, but I just couldn’t enjoy something like that, because I like to go places, and see stuff, and occasionally use trains if needs be, and leave the bike while I walk about and do / see stuff. I would be nervous about leaving something that cost that much anywhere, for any length of time. The amount of times I’ve been chopped during events, or even just out on the roads would also mean I would be nervous about riding it during the odd organised event I ride as well. Can't afford this bike? Then buy something else? No big deal, is it?
Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area said:
It’s a boring choice for the money. You’d be mad not to go down the custom route and spec something more exiting from the likes of Seven or Parlee
This is so wrong.I have a Project 1 9.9 Madone (although I run h1 fit with Enve 7.8s and a Quarq for about the same cost) and a Parlee ESX (so in a way directly compatible rather than say a Z-Zero).
The Madone is an absolute speed machine. The Parlee is outclassed for speed work and its main use is coffee shop posing (which most boutique makers bikes are), mine even benefits from being painted digi-cammo. The handling on the Parlee is very, very twitchy to the point of discomfort - and for a brand defined by ride comfort; again the Trek outclasses it. The only time the parlee is more exciting is on its twitchy edge (not when ridden hard). You really mean flash don't you.
The Madone's main failing is Trek spawned it.
Aero bikes by their nature are uncompromising (or comfort compromised). I don't think any of the smaller / boutique manufacturers have yet to build a better Aero machine than the bigger houses.
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