Turbo training

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youngricharduk

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235 posts

91 months

Sunday 4th November 2018
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When using my turbo trainer I often use the GCN training videos on YouTube but I've done them all to death. Any recommendations of what YouTube channels you find decent to train with?

langy

578 posts

245 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I used the GCN videos for a couple of winters and found them very good.

Last year I started using TrainerRoad and my bike fitness has improved quite a bit in that time. OK it’s a subscription service, but in my eyes, well worth the money, especially if you have a smart trainer and like a really structured training programme.

Dannbodge

2,196 posts

127 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I used to use the GCN videos as well.

I then moved to a smart trainer and zwift, which I found miles better.

lufbramatt

5,423 posts

140 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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+1 Trainerroad and just watch whatever you want on youtube/iplayer/dvd etc. It's about £75/year (think it may have gone up slightly recently) but their training calendar does a lot of what Trainingpeaks does and the Podcast, blog etc. are well worth a listen. Seems like a big cost but it's only a little bit more than a decent pair of tyres and I know what's made me faster!

If you don't want to buy a smart trainer it works perfectly well with a "dumb" trainer and either a power meter or speed/cadence sensor and virtual power, you still get just as a good workout just have to concentrate a bit more.

youngricharduk

Original Poster:

235 posts

91 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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Thanks for the replies, I'm really tempted to pull the money out for a smart trainer mainly because I currently pay a gym membership and mainly find myself using the 'Watt' bike for an hour or 2 and not much else. So I think I would be better off using the money for a Tacx Vortex or similar. The only concern is my laptop isn't the greatest. Would I need to buy an ipad or is there any other cheaper options, I currently have an old Samsung tablet and my smart phone (galaxy S9) as well as the unreliable laptop? What is other people's current set ups?

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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youngricharduk said:
Thanks for the replies, I'm really tempted to pull the money out for a smart trainer mainly because I currently pay a gym membership and mainly find myself using the 'Watt' bike for an hour or 2 and not much else. So I think I would be better off using the money for a Tacx Vortex or similar. The only concern is my laptop isn't the greatest. Would I need to buy an ipad or is there any other cheaper options, I currently have an old Samsung tablet and my smart phone (galaxy S9) as well as the unreliable laptop? What is other people's current set ups?
Trainer Road will run on a galaxy s9 no problemo I would have thought.

https://blog.trainerroad.com/trainerroad-for-andro...


lufbramatt

5,423 posts

140 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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Depends what app you want to use. TBH that was one of the reasons I went down the TR route rather than Zwift as Zwift wouldn't run on my laptop or 4th gen (32 bit) Ipad. It will run ok on an iPhone 5s but then I'd be stuck with a tiny screen. Currently I use an iPhone 5s for TR, then either my Ipad for Iplayer or my laptop if I fancy a DVD.

TR runs perfectly on my wife's Galaxy S7. There are desktop versions too (windows, mac) as well as a workout creator app (desktop only).

I'm not sure but I don't think Zwift will run on Android operating systems. (I think they have released a beta?)

Zwift needs an internet connection but TR can be run offline and synced afterwards.

Edited by lufbramatt on Monday 5th November 10:32

Dannbodge

2,196 posts

127 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I currently have a Tacx Neo and use a HP elitedesk G1 800 for the graphics (I5, 8gb Ram and GT730 graphics card- Cost me about £200 all in) plugged into a 32" TV.

Zwift does need an internet connection to start, but you can drop off after. It just won't show you any other riders.

Apple TV is the easiest way into Zwift. There is an Android Beta but it's full and they only release places sporadically.


HoHoHo

15,143 posts

256 months

Monday 5th November 2018
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I just got a cracking deal on a Wahoo Core and had my first ride yesterday...................what can I say?

I used Zwift and boy after 25km's I was knackered and very sweaty............a towel, a bottle of water and a fan is a must!

My gears needed a bit of fettling and I'm now thinking that every time I use the bike either way I'll have to muck about with the derailier which is a bit of PITA.

I use an iPad pro but have just bought an AV connector to connect direct to my TV via HDMI so no Sky for me whilst I'm riding. I understand Zwift is designed in 1080p so it's no issue not having it on a 4K TV or similar.

I couldn't get my first ride to sync with Strava. I had connected the account and all looked good so I'm assuming it's something I've done rather than the software.

It remains to be seen if Zwift is worth £12 month, but when you consider it's a good bottle of wine and I'll hopefully be cutting down on that hopefully it's worthwhile.

GOATever

2,651 posts

73 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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I’d advise at least trying to get out on some actual road rides during the winter months, as well as using the Turbo. You risk losing a fair bit of core muscle conditioning if you rely solely on Turbo stuff, for an extended period. There are some smart turbos that have a rocking feature, which helps to mitigate this, but even they won’t help with loss of conditioning due to lack of downhill braking, and general ‘muscle jiggle’ which you can’t easily simulate ( although I believe some of the newest, high end turbos can now simulate road conditions, more accurately).

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/kinetic-rock-and-roll-smar...

This type of thing.


Edited by GOATever on Wednesday 7th November 15:40

Joey Ramone

2,152 posts

131 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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The only think that can simulate road conditions around my way is to ride on some form of corrugated tarmac. The roads are that st I've pretty much given up road riding

youngricharduk

Original Poster:

235 posts

91 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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GOATever said:
I’d advise at least trying to get out on some actual road rides during the winter months, as well as using the Turbo. You risk losing a fair bit of core muscle conditioning if you rely solely on Turbo stuff, for an extended period. There are some smart turbos that have a rocking feature, which helps to mitigate this, but even they won’t help with loss of conditioning due to lack of downhill braking, and general ‘muscle jiggle’ which you can’t easily simulate ( although I believe some of the newest, high end turbos can now simulate road conditions, more accurately).

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/kinetic-rock-and-roll-smar...

This type of thing.


Edited by GOATever on Wednesday 7th November 15:40
Thanks for the reply, to be honest I'm a mountain biker and still get out every weekend and some night riding but I use the turbo when I can't be bothered with the hassle.

However I am looking to upgrade my trainer and I do like the look of that seems well priced aswell.

lufbramatt

5,423 posts

140 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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If you want to save some money get a standard Road Machine and build a rocker plate for about £30 quids worth of bits (plywood, pillow bearings, couple of tennis balls), does exactly the same thing smile