I've worked in the trade for years...ask me anything

I've worked in the trade for years...ask me anything

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GREENI

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498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Anything you'd really like to know?

Doofus

27,973 posts

179 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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How many years?

GREENI

Original Poster:

498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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'bout 15 years.

Shuttle Cock

402 posts

214 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Which trade?

GREENI

Original Poster:

498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Cycle...push bike.

Croutons

10,519 posts

172 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Why are ridgebacks so expensive?

Why, when they cut out the middle man, are whatever the make is that is Evans Cycles' own brand, not cheaper?

When will someone on a major tour be found with a power assistance device?

See my thread on what I should buy for £1136 retail.


GREENI

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498 posts

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Friday 5th October 2018
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Croutons said:
Why are ridgebacks so expensive?

Why, when they cut out the middle man, are whatever the make is that is Evans Cycles' own brand, not cheaper?

When will someone on a major tour be found with a power assistance device?

See my thread on what I should buy for £1136 retail.
Ridgebacks? They used to be sold in Gratton catalogues...
Evans are not recognised as a proper bike shop (by people in the trade).... Just a 'multi-national' like Halfords. Sure they sell bikes...
Power assisted device? You mean drugs, right?
£1136... Bit of an odd number.

Croutons

10,519 posts

172 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Right , so I ask you lots of things and you just fk about?


GREENI

Original Poster:

498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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A load of open ended questions:

Define 'expensive'

What 'middle-man' ?

I can't see into the future.

I've not seen your other thread. £1136 is a bit random.... Is it not?

Croutons

10,519 posts

172 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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More expensive than comparably spec'd bikes from other manufacturers.

If you read the thread, you'd see there is a 12% discount from retail, dropping 1136 to 1000, then the cycle to work scheme kicks in at its max of £1000. Random yes, until you read it.

GREENI

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498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Ridgeback aren't a big 'brand', their volume of sales won't be anything like the big boys (GIANT, SPESH, TREK etc) so their buying power isn't as big when it comes to speccing components, bigger the buyer, bigger the discount. This gets passed down.

Shops pay Cycle to Work schemes a premium per bike.... So they'll try and sell you either a new bike that isn't discounted, or one they're stuck with.

I'll check your thread.

Doofus

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179 months

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GREENI said:
'bout 15 years.
Ok, thanks. I'll leave it then, but thanks for the offer.

Willow1212

72 posts

93 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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GREENI said:
Evans are not recognised as a proper bike shop (by people in the trade).... Just a 'multi-national' like Halfords. Sure they sell bikes...
I don't think anyone who knows what they're talking about would describe Evans (or Halfords) as a 'multi-national'.

And to answer the question, they may make some savings from creating their own brand, but still need to do all the things a brand would normally do for them. So that means designing the bikes, sourcing the parts and factories, quality control, shipping, warehousing, marketing, legal stuff, warranty and spares backup etc. So they take on a lot of other expenses and need a team to do all that.
And as mentioned the volumes will be lower than the big brands being sold through more dealers and across the globe. It does give them great control on having exactly the product they want for their stores and customers, which global brands might not be able to offer.

gazza285

10,117 posts

214 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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What is wrong with Evans and Halfords? My local Halfords is well run, by knowledgeable and friendly people, and my mate's Boardman MTB was well specced for the price, and was also well set up. I was only in the trade for ten years though, so what do I know. I've got a proper job now.

GREENI

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498 posts

186 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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A proper job? What the hell is a proper job? Do you have to wear a tie? I've never been told what a proper job is.
I'm missing something?

HardtopManual

2,523 posts

172 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Question: Is this thread going as well as you though it would?

gazza285

10,117 posts

214 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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GREENI said:
A proper job? What the hell is a proper job? Do you have to wear a tie? I've never been told what a proper job is.
I'm missing something?
I'll tell you when you tell us what you do. Push irons is not a job, what do you actually do?

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Wheelsets. Clincher, tub, tubeless. Carbon or al. Deep, medium or shallow.

Everyday use.

Which one and why?

GREENI

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186 months

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HardtopManual said:
Question: Is this thread going as well as you though it would?
It's a already a total s#*t show. But I've looked at other threads and topics on here and I'm hardly surprised.


GREENI

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Greg66 said:
Wheelsets. Clincher, tub, tubeless. Carbon or al. Deep, medium or shallow.

Everyday use.

Which one and why?
Clincher. Versatility, you puncture, you replace the tube.

Back in the 80's I rode to The Netherlands and back on tubs....I punctured too many times and ran out of tubs. Stopping and pumping up a tub, then riding until it was flat, pump it up etc got tiring, real quick.

Nothing wrong with carbon rims, I've seen them with holes ripped in them and still true as a true thing.

I prefer alloy rims, eyeleted, brass nipples and stainless spokes, hand built of course.