Brompton bikes- cheapest online or shops?

Brompton bikes- cheapest online or shops?

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Sa Calobra

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38,038 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Ideally after the six speed version.

Alot of the same suspects come up in Google i.e. Evans or someone called Harry Hall (five week leadtime).

Anywhere else?

Thoughts on living with one? I live 10min walk either end of my tram from work.

Barchettaman

6,475 posts

138 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Lock up a £10 Gumtree beater bike either end of your commute?

Seriously though, get a folder. Mine has transformed the way I travel around, although as I never need to stick it under a desk I got a 26” wheeled Dahon Espresso, and pimped it a bit.

Everyone I’ve worked with who rides a Brompton loves them, and they hold their value well too.


Whatsmyname

944 posts

83 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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Just beware theyve made a lot of changes to the bike in 2017/18 and some people are still trying to pass the older models off as new.

Owner since 2014 I cant thing of anything else that would replace it.

Sa Calobra

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38,038 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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How do you spot a pre 17/18 model?

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Easiest way to tell is the gear trigger. The latest have newer design, a pic of mine is in the 'show off your bikes' thread. The older type rattles like a skeleton in a biscuit tin. I have a 2015 with one of those.

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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I doubt you'll get a discount anywhere. Lots of shops have various builds in stock, google will find.
Is CycleScheme an option? E.g. my new S6R will be under £600 via the scheme, after the extended loan..
My old one has been hardly used, 3 speed, raw lacquer, S type. Looks great!

ecs

1,285 posts

176 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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They're really strict on their pricing and I don't think shops are allowed to give discounts or sell them mail order. I think the cheapest way to get a new one is via a cycle scheme if your workplace offers it. They're pretty bomb proof though, so a used one would be a good alternative.

In terms of living with one, your use case is pretty ideal. I used my old one for a 5 minute ride to the station and then 15 minutes across London to the office and it was perfect, much quicker than the tube. I've just got an electric one now as I've moved a fair bit further from the station and it just about copes - the small wheels and high pressure tyres aren't ideal for the rutted country lanes I take it down, but they do the job!

Edited by ecs on Monday 1st October 09:00

bakerstreet

4,812 posts

171 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Jimboka said:
Easiest way to tell is the gear trigger. The latest have newer design, a pic of mine is in the 'show off your bikes' thread. The older type rattles like a skeleton in a biscuit tin. I have a 2015 with one of those.
No it isn't. The handle bars are much shallower on the newer models and its an easy spot too. With the handlebar change, came rubber grips as opposed to the older foam ones. However if you can get a cheaper old style model, then I would go for it.

Bromptons are, IMO fantastic bicycles. Mine has just clocked over 6000 miles and is used in all weathers. Its also paid for its self three times over now since I started using it in approximately 2 1/2 years ago.

Mine is looking pretty tired now and in reality it isn't even that old. Its got a load of marks on it where people pu their lugagge on top of it on the train and a scuff mark where it slammed into a kurb after I was hit by a truck. When it hits 7000 miles, I'm treating it to carbon bars and new grips. Also, it makes it look distinctive, which deters the thieves somewhat.

There is quite a lengthy thread on Bromptons here in PP. Worth a read.

Bromptons generally aren't discounted and I'd be amazed if you find any shop that advises a discount. Generally speaking Brompton don't need to discount.

However I feel that their longevity will be their eventual downfall. As in, you buy one once and short of a crash or wanting a change you won't need to buy another one for years biggrin

I ran a Tern before my Bromton. 20in wheels meant it rode better than a Brompton, but the build quality wasn't a patch on the brompton and the fold on the Brompton really is excellent and I'm sorry but the Terns are complete rubbish when compared to a Brompton.





Sa Calobra

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38,038 posts

217 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Checked my work can do CTW smile

aclivity

4,072 posts

194 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Harry Hall was the mechanic for Tom Simpson.

He (May be?) has a bike shop in Manchester, just along from where the Hacienda used to be.

Bought my second one from them in January.

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
Checked my work can do CTW smile
If it’s £1000 limit it’s a bit tight
My pretty basic 6 speed S type (and the easily spotted new gear levers smile) came in @ 1070
However my LBS let me pay a £70 ‘deposit’ when ordering then the £1000 voucher covered it.
About 5 week wait for factory build (I opted for higher gearing as don’t live near Everest). Larger front chain ring.

bakerstreet

4,812 posts

171 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Jimboka said:
If it’s £1000 limit it’s a bit tight
My pretty basic 6 speed S type (and the easily spotted new gear levers smile) came in @ 1070
However my LBS let me pay a £70 ‘deposit’ when ordering then the £1000 voucher covered it.
About 5 week wait for factory build (I opted for higher gearing as don’t live near Everest). Larger front chain ring.
Shouldn't be a problem at all. I have topped up my purchase with cash on both of my CTW scheme bikes. My Fuji was £1271 and my Brompton was £1069 I think.

I would aslo question the OP on wht he wants a 6Sp. Adds unnecessary complexity. Three and two speed are ample unless you are crossing the alps every day!

Or is this a case of 'this one looks the most expensive, I'll go with that'

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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I plan a long trip on mine one day so opted for the 6 + 8% !


Chrisgr31

13,677 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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I used to have a Dahon until it got written off when I was hit by a car, now using (or was until I broke my wrist) a friends Brompton. The build quality of the Brompton is much better and it will last much longer, indeed the one I am using is about 20 years old,

However i much prefer the fold mechanism on the Dahon which is pull over clip, one in the frame and one if the handlebar. With the Brompton you have two knobs to twiddle, takes much longer,

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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5.19 seconds isn’t longsmile
Maybe 20 in real life

Whatsmyname

944 posts

83 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
How do you spot a pre 17/18 model?
Gear Trigger
Brake calipers
Brake levers
Crank set
Tyres (standard fit ones)
Suspension block
Bell


bakerstreet

4,812 posts

171 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Chrisgr31 said:
I used to have a Dahon until it got written off when I was hit by a car, now using (or was until I broke my wrist) a friends Brompton. The build quality of the Brompton is much better and it will last much longer, indeed the one I am using is about 20 years old,

However i much prefer the fold mechanism on the Dahon which is pull over clip, one in the frame and one if the handlebar. With the Brompton you have two knobs to twiddle, takes much longer,
Two clips is hardly fiddly. Tern also had massive issues with cracking frames! The magnets rarely line up properly so carrying the bike sometimes results in it just swinging open wildly into the path of oncoming walking commuters.

It doesn't stand that well when folded. Many people including me used bungy cords to lash the bike the pole on the train.

Its very very uncomfortable to carry as it basically digs into the side of your body.

The low point of mine was when it fell over on a train and marked someone's clothing frown

The only saving grace was I didn't loose much money on mine and it came with a carry bag and a couple of locks. Think I paid £220 and sold it for £210. Evans sell Terns and they are nearly always discounted in the sales. Bromptons are never discounted.

mickymellon1

371 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I use mine if I cba cycling the 30 mile round trip for home - overground, overground - work on a road bike

good choice on the 6 speed, I've a 3 speed and its good around town but Id no way chose it for a 'proper' ride or anything particularly lumpy, the extra ratios may help towards that and fyi, I got mine 2nd hand as I couldn't do the man maths to justify *another* bike

Usget

5,426 posts

217 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Brompton M3L on C2W here, standard except for a Brooks saddle. I think it might be my favourite bike. It's just so much fun to ride. Obviously I wouldn't recommend it for a long journey (although some nutcase did attempt the TransCon on a Brompton and I think someone has completed PBP!) but for pottering around in civvy clothing, it's a great little thing.

Personally I find the standard gearing quite long, it's OK for most London riding but if your town is hilly I'd suggest the -8% gearing.

Also, spec the extended seatpost if you are over 5'10. I thought I'd get away without it, but I was sitting far too low even at full extension. The longer one is a bit less convenient but allows me a much nicer riding position.

bakerstreet

4,812 posts

171 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Usget said:
Brompton M3L on C2W here, standard except for a Brooks saddle. I think it might be my favourite bike. It's just so much fun to ride. Obviously I wouldn't recommend it for a long journey (although some nutcase did attempt the TransCon on a Brompton and I think someone has completed PBP!) but for pottering around in civvy clothing, it's a great little thing.

Personally I find the standard gearing quite long, it's OK for most London riding but if your town is hilly I'd suggest the -8% gearing.

Also, spec the extended seatpost if you are over 5'10. I thought I'd get away without it, but I was sitting far too low even at full extension. The longer one is a bit less convenient but allows me a much nicer riding position.
I'm 5ft 10in and I have the post on the limit or just above it. I prefer to be able to at least get my toes square on the floor when riding in the city. I know some people will ride a bike where the tows can just about touch the floor because that is their optimum position, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.

You never know when you might need to plant your foot on the floor in a hurry!