Aero Wheels, £1500ish, Canyon Aeroad

[russy01]

Morning,

Currently have a Canyon Aeroad with the Reynolds Strike 62mm Carbon Clinchers - with Discs.

Anyway, I am looking to replace these wheels for various reasons I can’t be bothered to explain. I am looking at similar sized aero wheels and I’ll restrict using the bike to less windy days (although have got on well with the Reynolds despite them supposedly being terrible in crosswinds).

I dont know a huge amount about wheels and dont know where to start, what I am looking for:

- 60mm+
- Disc compatible, centre lock preferred.
- Tubeless ready if poss
- £1500ish (depends what I can sell the Reynolds for)

I have currently seen:

Mavic Cosmic Comète Pro - these are tubeless ready and in budget, also the same size at 62mm

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Mavic/Comete-Pro-...

Zipp Firecrest 404/808

Zipp Firecrest 808/808 - are these going to be too big for general use?


Thanks.

Edited by russy01 on Friday 6th July 09:04

[E65Ross]

Interesting, I'll keep a tab on this thread! I went the other way and bought a Zipp 202 front wheel as I was struggling in cross-winds with the Reynolds. Despite being a narrower depth (32mm I think) I'm convinced it's a faster wheel. The bike does look odd with a 32mm front wheel with white decals and the standard 62mm matte-black Reynolds rear wheel, mind!

I still use the Reynolds on days when it's not windy though. Why are you selling, may I ask?

[Harpoon]

I've been doing a load of reading and looking around for disc wheels in the 35mm to 50mm depth range

Have some quotes from wheel builders, but I do like the DT Swiss PRC 1400 Spline 47

https://www.moonglu.com/products/dt-swiss-erc-1400...

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Interesting, I'll keep a tab on this thread! I went the other way and bought a Zipp 202 front wheel as I was struggling in cross-winds with the Reynolds. Despite being a narrower depth (32mm I think) I'm convinced it's a faster wheel. The bike does look odd with a 32mm front wheel with white decals and the standard 62mm matte-black Reynolds rear wheel, mind!

I still use the Reynolds on days when it's not windy though. Why are you selling, may I ask?

I have used the Reynolds for 2500miles in all types of weather and generally got on ok with them. They are a bit nasty in really windy conditions, but then most 60mm wheels are. If the weather is that bad, I'll just take a different bike as the profile of the Aeroad frame doesn't help in wind either.

The wheels are ok in use and are fast, but have given me consistent issues with tyres and I have had enough. Have you had to change a tube or simply take your tyres on or off yet? If so, you might already know where I am coming from! They are an absolute bh and I am a little fed up with them...

With tubes - Takes me up to 30mins to change a flat as they are so tight. Also pinched a couple tubes trying to get the tyre on... absolute nightmare when on the road side.

Tubeless - Same pain in the arse to actually get the Tyre on the rim, then an even bigger pain in the arse to seat. Used compressors, charge pumps, compressors at the local car tyre place and its a bloody pain. Thought its all been good, held pressure for 24hrs and then goes flat 10miles up the road...

Spent too long either in my kitchen or on the road side farting about with tyres on these wheels and its time for them to go - plus who doesn't want to buy new wheels given the chance?

Im sure the "pros" on here will come along and tell me Im st, Im doing it wrong or I am being a pussy. But I dont care, there are various articles on the web with people complaining about the same problem and Ive simply had enough!

[russy01]

Harpoon said:

I've been doing a load of reading and looking around for disc wheels in the 35mm to 50mm depth range

Have some quotes from wheel builders, but I do like the DT Swiss PRC 1400 Spline 47

https://www.moonglu.com/products/dt-swiss-erc-1400...

A variant of these are on my radar as Canyon fit the 62mm version to the £6000 Aeroad...

https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/aeroad/2018/aero...

[TwistingMyMelon]

a mate had a puncture with those reynolds , he said what a struggle they are to get tubes on, he used a lever and nipped his only tube!

I did it with my hands but had to use a lot of twisting and I was suprised how much the wheel bent in my hands!! Never seen that before

[Jacobyte]

Yes, Reynolds can be a bugger to fit some tyres, particularly Michelin (I have Reynolds DV46C and love them). In the early days I pinched a few tubes, but have now got the technique sorted (thin rim tape, ensure the bead of the tyre is in the "well" of the rim before getting last cord into place). The front wheel I can now do without any levers. The rear just needs some (very) careful encouragement.

[russy01]

TwistingMyMelon said:

a mate had a puncture with those reynolds , he said what a struggle they are to get tubes on, he used a lever and nipped his only tube!

I did it with my hands but had to use a lot of twisting and I was suprised how much the wheel bent in my hands!! Never seen that before

Nipped his only tube - story of my life with these, hence giving the Tubeless a go!

[E65Ross]

Nope, I agree. I've swapped the original tyres over and remember them being a sodding nightmare to get tyres on and off of them. Having replaced the front wheel, it'll be the rear I get next, I'm sorely tempted by a 454 NSW....but they aren't cheap!!!!!!

[R1gtr]

Heads up chaps.....Canyon have a 24 hour sale on Zipp wheels, be quick.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/accessories/?utm_sour...

[russy01]

R1gtr said:

Heads up chaps.....Canyon have a 24 hour sale on Zipp wheels, be quick.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/accessories/?utm_sour...

Oh bloody hell... the prices arent bad either! Is a pair of 404s going to be any difference performance wise to the Reynolds?

[E65Ross]

R1gtr said:

Heads up chaps.....Canyon have a 24 hour sale on Zipp wheels, be quick.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/accessories/?utm_sour...

You bd, I wish you didn't show me that

My bike does look odd with the 202 front wheel with white decals....and a 404 with white decals would suit it to the ground. Although I must refrain, I've just spent almost £3k on a new boiler and a heating system refresh.....

I think I shall stick with the Reynolds rear wheel for now, save up and maybe treat myself if a bargain comes up over winter.

Does anyone have any experience of the 454 NSW? I can imagine experience is thin on the ground as they're incredibly expensive. I may see if I can ping GCN a message and see what Simon thinks of them compared to something like a 404.

russy01 said:

R1gtr said:

Heads up chaps.....Canyon have a 24 hour sale on Zipp wheels, be quick.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/accessories/?utm_sour...

Oh bloody hell... the prices arent bad either! Is a pair of 404s going to be any difference performance wise to the Reynolds?

I reckon so. The 404s will be quicker than the 202s....and I'm pretty sure by having the 202 on the front of mine seems quicker than with the Reynolds front. Not exactly night and day but I do think it's quicker. I reckon I'll end up getting a 404 for the rear at some point, and then one for the front a little later down the line. I'd LOVE some 454 NSWs but they're so expensive it's fairly ridiculous.

[R1gtr]

I was eyeing up a set of Hunt but even then could hardly justify the cost. Really tempted by the 404's at that price from Canyon, you may as well engrave the words 'budget creep' on my tombstone!

[Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area]

Re fitting tyres and helping prevent flats - are you chaps applying talc to your tubes?

[anthonysjb]

Farsports, UCI approved for half the price, DT hubs, sorted.

[E65Ross]

I am fking fed up with trying to get tyres on these Reynolds wheels. I had a blowout the other day and they're a fking sod to get tyres on.

The tyre was ruined but managed to get a lift home. I've just burst 3 innertubes trying to get a new fking tyre on the rim. I've now got no spare tubes and thus can't ride the bike.

. Y Zipp 202 wheel is an absolute doddle in comparison! I can't be the only one?

[russy01]

Ah... these wheels. There is a knack to it and I’ve now mastered it.

With GP4000 I can change in 5mins flat now...

When you re-mount the tyre are you squeezing the bead together (on the opposite side), so that it drops into the central channel?

This is the key... Work the tyre round like you normally would until you have the last 8-10inches that won’t go on. Then flip the wheel over and squeeze the beads together so that it pops into the channel. This buys you a mm or two and you’ll be able to work the tyre on by hand with no issues at all.

[E65Ross]

Tried that I'm afraid. Maybe the Michelins I'm using are a tad harder to get on. I've done it in the past and got it on but remember struggling. I can get the tyre on the rim ok, but using tyre levers just results in a pinch puncture from the levers.

So got through £15 of tubes and now none spare. Will pop to LBS tomorrow and see if I can buy a tube and get them to fit the fking thing for me.

[russy01]

E65Ross said:

Tried that I'm afraid. Maybe the Michelins I'm using are a tad harder to get on. I've done it in the past and got it on but remember struggling. I can get the tyre on the rim ok, but using tyre levers just results in a pinch puncture from the levers.

So got through £15 of tubes and now none spare. Will pop to LBS tomorrow and see if I can buy a tube and get them to fit the fking thing for me.

You just need to change the tyres then? As I said before I can now fit GP4000 completely by hand in 5mins. Had 4 punctures in the last 2 wks and am a pro now 👍🏻

[E65Ross]

russy01 said:

E65Ross said:

Tried that I'm afraid. Maybe the Michelins I'm using are a tad harder to get on. I've done it in the past and got it on but remember struggling. I can get the tyre on the rim ok, but using tyre levers just results in a pinch puncture from the levers.

So got through £15 of tubes and now none spare. Will pop to LBS tomorrow and see if I can buy a tube and get them to fit the fking thing for me.

You just need to change the tyres then? As I said before I can now fit GP4000 completely by hand in 5mins. Had 4 punctures in the last 2 wks and am a pro now ????

I prefer the Michelin tyres over the contis to be honest, I bought a new tyre but just can't get the bugger on (well, I can, I just puncture the tube at the same time!). I'll see if the LBS have any long valve tubes in and see if they'll do me a quick favour tomorrow

Tempted to just get a Zipp 404 Firecrest, although I THINK they're just about to release a new model judging by a recent GCN video!