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twoblacklines

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1,575 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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That the POLICE don't know the highway code, apparently.




These do not correlate with this



SO if the Police don't know the laws of the road, how do you expect motorists to?

On a side note (I wish I had a rear dash cam) I overtook a cyclist the other day, leaving a full lane. A police car did the same behind me, barely crossing the middle line, then flashed at me and pointed some kind of arrow hand gesture at me, basically like I was too far over.

So again if the Police disagree, what is the actual law and how can you blame motorists for all cycle overtaking problems if the Police don't do it properly?

OR maybe the do it properly and cyclists are spreading false "rules"...

frisbee

5,588 posts

139 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Leave enough space so that if they fall off you don't run over their head. It's that simple.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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twoblacklines said:
That the POLICE don't know the highway code, apparently.




These do not correlate with this



SO if the Police don't know the laws of the road, how do you expect motorists to?

On a side note (I wish I had a rear dash cam) I overtook a cyclist the other day, leaving a full lane. A police car did the same behind me, barely crossing the middle line, then flashed at me and pointed some kind of arrow hand gesture at me, basically like I was too far over.

So again if the Police disagree, what is the actual law and how can you blame motorists for all cycle overtaking problems if the Police don't do it properly?

OR maybe the do it properly and cyclists are spreading false "rules"...
One of those pictures is the Police, the other is the Highway Code - which one is 'cyclists spreading false 'rules''?

It looks to me like the distance between the car and the cyclist in both cases is around 1.5m - which seems reasonable. Why do you find the safe overtaking of slower road users such a challenge?

Kermit power

29,622 posts

242 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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That particular rule in the Highway Code is absurd though, as demonstrated by the top photo.

When overtaking another car on a single carriageway road, by definition, you can't give it more than a couple of feet clearance, as to give it more than that, you'd have to be up on the kerb. I certainly wouldn't want to be overtaken that closely when I'm cycling though.

blindspot

353 posts

172 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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OP has failed reading comprehension.

'Give vulnerable users at least as much space as a car' is not the same as 'leave a car's width between you and vulnerable users'.

Both pictures illustrate giving a cyclist some room when overtaking. No contradiction.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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blindspot said:
OP has failed reading comprehension.

'Give vulnerable users at least as much space as a car' is not the same as 'leave a car's width between you and vulnerable users'.

Both pictures illustrate giving a cyclist some room when overtaking. No contradiction.
No they demonstrate giving a cyclist a whole cars width when overtaking.

AyBee

11,310 posts

231 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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twoblacklines said:
blindspot said:
OP has failed reading comprehension.

'Give vulnerable users at least as much space as a car' is not the same as 'leave a car's width between you and vulnerable users'.

Both pictures illustrate giving a cyclist some room when overtaking. No contradiction.
No they demonstrate giving a cyclist a whole cars width when overtaking.
You think there's a cars width in those pictures from the highway code? Blindspot is right, your reading of the highway code is what's wrong, not the police.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Almost yes.

Look at the top picture. That car is about 2 feet from the opposite verge. The cyclist is in the left of their lane. Most cyclists ride in the middle of the lane, so to keep that gap you would have to mount the grass verge whilst overtaking.

Not possible is it?

bobmoore

176 posts

115 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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twoblacklines, you are very unusually stupid.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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There are 8 grid squares in the length of the car, and around 7.2 grid squares in the gap between the car and the cycle.

So yes, a cars worth.


blindspot

353 posts

172 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Have you recently fallen on your head OP?

The guidance could not be more clear. The pictures are not there to be copied to the millimeter. They are an illustration. The police are not giving an inconsistent message, you are for some reason trying to drum up a grievance against them.

Banana Boy

467 posts

142 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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OP I think it's time you got a hobby!

This internet forum thing must be taking a lot out of you both emotionally and physically?!

Genuinely, find something constructive to do with your time. Read books, take up origami, ride bikes (you might like it...) or go to the gym. Learn to dance, learn to paint, volunteer at a charity or local youth organisation. There are so many worth while things you could do with your time that doesn't involve trolling the internet! This really isn't the future!

Honestly, I'm not being weird or anything like that. You seem quite angry and this probably isn't helping - I am literally going to post this and then turn off my laptop to do some reading before bed!

Night smile

(I'm currently reading Re:Cyclists by Michael Hutchinson, only a short way in but it's good so far.)

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

190 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Banana Boy said:
OP I think it's time you got a hobby!

This internet forum thing must be taking a lot out of you both emotionally and physically?!

Genuinely, find something constructive to do with your time. Read books, take up origami, ride bikes (you might like it...) or go to the gym. Learn to dance, learn to paint, volunteer at a charity or local youth organisation. There are so many worth while things you could do with your time that doesn't involve trolling the internet! This really isn't the future!

Honestly, I'm not being weird or anything like that. You seem quite angry and this probably isn't helping - I am literally going to post this and then turn off my laptop to do some reading before bed!

Night smile

(I'm currently reading Re:Cyclists by Michael Hutchinson, only a short way in but it's good so far.)
I am hardly on here. Thanks for the advice though.