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Does it tend to go higher for the same level of effort after a few weeks off / christmas excesses? Just been on a ride and I really struggle to keep it out of zone 4 and 5! About 40 miles and nearly 4000ft. Hills I keep my cadence high but even on just long false flats - maybe 3% incline, after a few minutes my HR rises from about zone 3.5 to 5+.
Do I just need to get fitter or do some people just naturally go into a higher HR zone as they exercise?
I never go into the "anaerobic" zone for more than a few seconds (on Strava - I presume this relates to about zone 5.5 or 6??) but I spend the majority in tempo and threshold.
Do I just need to get fitter or do some people just naturally go into a higher HR zone as they exercise?
I never go into the "anaerobic" zone for more than a few seconds (on Strava - I presume this relates to about zone 5.5 or 6??) but I spend the majority in tempo and threshold.
torqueofthedevil said:
Does it tend to go higher for the same level of effort after a few weeks off / christmas excesses? Just been on a ride and I really struggle to keep it out of zone 4 and 5! About 40 miles and nearly 4000ft. Hills I keep my cadence high but even on just long false flats - maybe 3% incline, after a few minutes my HR rises from about zone 3.5 to 5+.
Do I just need to get fitter or do some people just naturally go into a higher HR zone as they exercise?
I never go into the "anaerobic" zone for more than a few seconds (on Strava - I presume this relates to about zone 5.5 or 6??) but I spend the majority in tempo and threshold.
You're less fit - ergo same effort as previous takes more effort. More effort = heart beating faster. Do I just need to get fitter or do some people just naturally go into a higher HR zone as they exercise?
I never go into the "anaerobic" zone for more than a few seconds (on Strava - I presume this relates to about zone 5.5 or 6??) but I spend the majority in tempo and threshold.
Fitter you get, the more watts you'll produce for x heartrate. Pretty straight forward
citizenmtb said:
Yeah I find the same. Went out today after 2.5months recovering from an incident with a car and I managed to add a while BPM to my max HR!
If I have winter off and resume in march like normal I add about 35bpm to my max HR, but it returns to normal after a few weeks.
So whats your max when your fit and max when unfit?If I have winter off and resume in march like normal I add about 35bpm to my max HR, but it returns to normal after a few weeks.
You were off for a few weeks - is that 2/3 or 5/6? For me, two weeks off puts me in a bad place, so 5/6 would feel awful.
Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
The absolute max doesn't seem to vary much (or fitness), if any with age. 220-age is a load of old b****cks.
The max I'll see on a ride varies quite considerably. August this year tapering off a serious training schedule, I struggled to push it past 150. Currently I'm getting into the early 170's for considerably less power (after a 3 month go-slow). Still can hold it though, it's the HR at threshold that's changed really.
The max I'll see on a ride varies quite considerably. August this year tapering off a serious training schedule, I struggled to push it past 150. Currently I'm getting into the early 170's for considerably less power (after a 3 month go-slow). Still can hold it though, it's the HR at threshold that's changed really.
z4RRSchris said:
220! How old are you!
Must feel like your about to die.
I got to 202 once (I'm 30) chasing a v quick mate up box hill and almost keeled over
28/29.Must feel like your about to die.
I got to 202 once (I'm 30) chasing a v quick mate up box hill and almost keeled over
But like I said, it's a fleeting thing when I'm unfit. Looking back at my Strava data it only took 3 rides to come down to 185 and then stayed there in March last year.
Daveyraveygravey said:
You were off for a few weeks - is that 2/3 or 5/6? For me, two weeks off puts me in a bad place, so 5/6 would feel awful.
Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
Yeah it's not spikes but just due to the rest time - it's been about 3 weeks- you are right though - that will take about 3 rides before I start to feel half fit again. Take a few months off and it takes about 6 weeks to feel fit again. It's crazy really. Lots of alcohol and big nights out / little sleep hardly help either.Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
Daveyraveygravey said:
You were off for a few weeks - is that 2/3 or 5/6? For me, two weeks off puts me in a bad place, so 5/6 would feel awful.
Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
Yeah it's not spikes but just due to the rest time - it's been about 3 weeks- you are right though - that will take about 3 rides before I start to feel half fit again. Take a few months off and it takes about 6 weeks to feel fit again. It's crazy really. Lots of alcohol and big nights out / little sleep hardly help either.Plus you can get random Strava spikes in any of the data. My max HR is around 185, sometimes it hits 220, I just ignore that. My vmax once or twice is 585 kmh I ignore that too
citizenmtb said:
fit = 185
unfit = 220
Have your seen a cardiologist lately?unfit = 220
Surely max HR for someone in their late 20's should be around 195? Your Fit figure looks spot on.
I am slightly unfit 40yr old, I can peg mine to 175 but it really won't go any higher irrespective of effort... maybe if I have to run from a tiger?
okgo said:
One mans HR bears no relevance or resemblance to the next mans. Why people cannot grasp that I have no idea. Chris Froome has a lower max HR than you, I know who my money is on to get up a mountain first 
Not entirely true... (but you know that ;-) It was a throw away comment against a bold claim not hard science anyway. A 20-something claiming when he's unfit because his heart races 25-30 bpm higher than all the reference material average maximums is either phenomenal or ill? (Or his HRM battery is FUBAR)
PS- If I have to race Frome up a mountain I'll drive thank you... and my HR will be much lower (whether he cycles of runs ;-)
I rode with someone who HR went up to high 230's in his 40's. Apparently a medical misfit who the first time he went to A&E had a lot of the doctors worried.
My max HR having got back on a bike in 2012 to now is virtually unchanged at 185 (was 40 last year). I do find getting HR up harder as I age, although having recently started training that trend seems to be reversing.
My max HR having got back on a bike in 2012 to now is virtually unchanged at 185 (was 40 last year). I do find getting HR up harder as I age, although having recently started training that trend seems to be reversing.
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