The water bottle - reinvented....
The water bottle - reinvented....
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/fabric-re-invents...

Not sure how secure it would be over most UK roads but I like the fact that it means you could have differenct shape bottles on a bike and not worry about whether it would fit in the cage...

yellowjack

18,434 posts

195 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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There was another cage-less system a while back, using magnets, I think. I seldom see it on sale anywhere, neither in shops nor online.

I've currently got no problems with either the weight, reliability, or convenience of a bottle in a bottle cage. For me, this is a solution looking for a problem, and not appealing in the slightest. Maybe when such things become more commonplace, and these (hinted at) radically different bottle forms are created to take advantage of the cage-free fastening system, then I'll consider changing my mind. For now, though - "ahhhhm oot!"

Foliage

3,861 posts

151 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Interesting idea but why doesn't the bottle have more than 1 row of V's? so that you don't have to have it lined up 1 specific way. Also with it not having to sit in a cage why have they also gone for a traditional bottle shape and not tried to come up with something better (may their isn't anything better)

TBH for cyclists I'd have thought a bladder that sits in the lower back pocket of a t-shirt with a pipe sewn into the t-shirt would be a far far better solution.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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With the regular cage you are limited to a certain diameter of bottle and any smaller than 550ml and they are a bit of a pain to get in and out whilst in a group, plus they spoli the asthetics of a nice frame wink

As you say if they had a few different size, shape bottles to go with the concept it might get more attention. Personally if they could fit those brackets to my thermal screw top coffee cup it would be perfect for the morning commute....

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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What timing! Sportive organisers all over the land are getting ready to introduce neutral bottle exchanges and someone comes along and invents a non-compatible bottle smile

anonymous-user

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83 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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bottle exchanges are so last week, I'm working on musettes now with contents based on personalised nutritional requirements...










its a good job I have thick skin.....now I know how Dizzeeee feels

whatleytom

1,536 posts

212 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Can't see anyone racing taking that up, would surely bounce free over a bump.

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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pablo said:
bottle exchanges are so last week, I'm working on musettes now with contents based on personalised nutritional requirements...
Now you're talking!

Having thought about it, those new bottles are an interesting idea. I can see aero shaped bottles catching on with those with aero frames, for example.

Tiddy1

83 posts

146 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Why not just fill the frame with water and put a straw into the top......

RGambo

883 posts

198 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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they've done that thing haven't they. You know, fixing a problem that doesn't really exist. :-)

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Not sold on it, firstly I could see them jumping out of the holders on the shi77y conditions in the UK, if they are tight enough to not jump out then they will probably require quite a bit of force to remove them when pedaling along. Secondly, as has been said already I don't want to be faffing around trying to re-locate the biddon in two small spots while scooting along in a group....

Berz

406 posts

221 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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DoubleSix said:
Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.
Good point about the slots. Current bottle cage I only have to line up one thing (bottom of bottle / top of cage) and it slots in. With one of these you need both slots lined up which means getting the same angle as your down tube, distance down the down tube, vertical alignment so you don't get one in but not the other, and rotational alignment so it doesn't twist out when you push it in. Sounds like a faff, that or I am overthinking it.

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Berz said:
DoubleSix said:
Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.
Good point about the slots. Current bottle cage I only have to line up one thing (bottom of bottle / top of cage) and it slots in. With one of these you need both slots lined up which means getting the same angle as your down tube, distance down the down tube, vertical alignment so you don't get one in but not the other, and rotational alignment so it doesn't twist out when you push it in. Sounds like a faff, that or I am overthinking it.
No, you're just thinking it, unlike the designer. wink

Fourmotion

1,032 posts

249 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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DoubleSix said:
Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.
I'm sure they assumed no one would be taking a drink in a peloton at 40mph.

I don't think they'll work personally, too much faff lining up and I question how well they'll stay put and not rattle.

gazza285

11,134 posts

237 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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SixPotBelly said:
I can see aero shaped bottles catching on with those with aero frames, for example.
Meanwhile 33 years ago...


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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tough crowd, remind me not to float any of my ideas here...

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Fourmotion said:
DoubleSix said:
Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.
I'm sure they assumed no one would be taking a drink in a peloton at 40mph.

I don't think they'll work personally, too much faff lining up and I question how well they'll stay put and not rattle.
The broader point was that it places and additional demand on the cyclist that is not a worthwhile trade off, but you knew that anyway.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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DoubleSix said:
Very poor.

Having to line up slots is not what you want at 40mph in a peloton.
It's not what you want full stop.

Looks like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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pablo said:
tough crowd, remind me not to float any of my ideas here...
Remind me what the point of floating ideas was again...